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Mr. Taddeo. I wouldn't want any children to use our product, 

 any child. 



Mr. TISCH. Mr. Wyden, I have stated in the past and I truly be- 

 lieve that smoking is an adult decision. I've got a 15 -year-old son 

 who is sitting in this room today and I have told him in the past 

 that I would prefer that — first of all, I don't want him to make that 

 decision until he's 18 years old and that when he's 18 years old, 

 I want him to make a fully informed decision based on all the in- 

 formation available. 



Mr. Wyden. Mr. Tisch, with all due respect, the question I'm 

 asking you is 



Mr. TiSCH. May I finish? 



Mr. Wyden. Please. 



Mr. Tisch. I think I will get to your question very quickly. I 

 would prefer that he not smoke. 



Mr. Wyden. Thank you. 



Mr. HORRIGAN. I have four children, all of whom are married. 

 Neither my wife or I smoke. All of them smoke and they made 

 their own decisions free and independent of any lifestyle that they 

 saw in our home. 



Mr. Wyden. So you have no preference. 



Mr. Horrigan. We have no preference. 



Mr. Wyden. All right. 



Mr. Sandefur. I have no children. 



Mr. Wyden. All right. We'll let you off the hook. 



Mr. Donald Johnston. I have two children who are adults. One 

 is a smoker and one is not. I believe it's right that they should have 

 the right to make their own choice and an informed choice. I would 

 not have a preference for them to be smoking as children. 



Mr. James Johnston. Mr. Congressman, I misspoke a moment 

 ago. I'd like to correct it for the record. I said I want adults to 

 smoke. That is not what I mean to communicate. I want adults to 

 make that decision for themselves. 



Mr. Wyden. But you still don't want your child to smoke or I 

 guess your grandchild, is that right? 



Mr. James Johnston. I have three children, sir. 



Mr. Wyden. OK. Let me ask you, Mr. Johnston. I note that ad- 

 vertising age, for example, a publication that is truly committed to 

 advertising. First Amendment and the like, in January of 1992, 

 said that the Joe Camel ads encourage youngsters to smoke and 

 urge that the ad be dropped. 



Now, that is not exactly a — ^that's not even a health organ. That's 

 an advertising organ. How do you react when even pro-advertising 

 publications, publications that are dedicated to making money on 

 advertising, say that you're zeroing in on kids? 



Mr. James Johnston. Let's make sure that we're defining the 

 term properly here. When I talk about children, it is those under 

 the legal age to smoke. Just so we're clear on that. 



Mr. Wyden. But this publication said that your ad — this is not 

 the American Medical Association. This is an advertising publica- 

 tion — said that it is zeroing in on kids and urged you to drop it. 



Mr. James Johnston. My recollection is that was not the thrust 

 of their editorial, but, rather, that those accusations would bring 

 this reign of terror on cigarette advertising in general. So, there- 



