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your company and you should avoid smoke so that you feel well as 

 much as you possibly can. 



Mr. Wyden. How can he do that if he's in a building, for exam- 

 ple? This kid is 7 years old. How is he going to go out and clear 

 out the building and tell everybody not to smoke? 



Mr. Campbell. I think that the majority of people in America are 

 very considerate, and particularly smokers. In fact, I think you now 

 know that smokers and non-smokers alike believe that they can get 

 along with an accommodation policy, that there's restricted areas 

 for smoking. 



Mr. Wyden. If everybody is so considerate, I don't know how it 

 is that the Federal Government has found that the smoke causes 

 more than 150,000 cases of lower respiratory disease, like bron- 

 chitis, in young kids less than 2. What would you say to Robert, 

 Mr. Johnston? I'd go to you next. 



Mr. James Johnston. Robert is a delightful young man. I 

 listenedvery carefully to what he had to say. I agree with Mr. 

 Campbell that smokers will respect non-smokers. Are there a few 

 rude smokers? Of course, there are, and there are rude non-smok- 

 ers. But 70 percent of the American population believes that smok- 

 ers and non-smokers working together can accommodate one an- 

 other. 



Mr. Wyden. But Robert is not causing cancer in the smokers. 

 The smokers are causing the young people to get sick. I think this 

 is all nice to kind of gloss it over and say let's ail be happy to each 

 other, but 7 years old, he doesn't have the power to stop this. It 

 seems to me that you all are pretty indifferent to it, too. Sir, what 

 would you say to Robert? He wants to stop it. 



Mr. Taddeo. I'd have Robert talk to his parents and see if accom- 

 modations could be made to help him out. 



Mr. Wyden. His parents aren't the problem? The problem is the 

 smokers around him. What? Is his parent going to go beat up 

 somebody who smokes? 



Mr. Taddeo. No. The place he was talking about, the bowling 

 alley, certainly his parents could talk to the management of the 

 bowling alley, tell them about Robert's situation, and make accom- 

 modations. That's what I would tell him. 



Mr. Wyden. Mr. Tisch? It seems to me, too, if everybody re- 

 spected each other the way you all advocate in this sort of wonder- 

 ful world that doesn't exist, we wouldn't have this problem. We've 

 got the problem because people don't go along with the kind of 

 thing that you all are talking about. Mr. Tisch? 



Mr. Tisch. Mr. Wyden, we also, and you'll not hear anything dif- 

 ferent from me, but we are in favor of an accommodation between 

 smokers and non-smokers. 



Mr. Wyden. Do you support the Waxman legislation then to re- 

 strict smoking in these buildings? 



Mr. Tisch. No, sir, I don't. 



Mr. Wyden. What kind of— all of this is happy talk. Robert 

 doesn't want to get sick. All this business about accommodation is 

 just great, but the fact of the matter is when the rubber hits the 

 road, he's powerless. Mr. Waxman wants to give Robert and the 

 other children in this country some power so they aren't going to 

 get sick. 



