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Mr. Waxman. There's been a lot of interest in tobacco extract and 

 whether nicotine is added by use of a tobacco extract. Mr. John- 

 ston, has RJR ever used tobacco extract or any of its products sold 

 domestically or abroad? 



Mr. James Johnston. Not to my knowledge, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Waxman. Maybe your research advisor. 



Mr. James Johnston. Pardon me. In Premier, there was a spray 

 dried tobacco extract used. In our Winstons and Camels and so 

 forth, that is not the case. 



Mr. Waxman. Let me get for the record from each of you whether 

 you've ever used tobacco extract and how much nicotine was in the 

 tobacco extract. That means submit it to us in writing for the 

 record. Mr. Wyden, you're the last one for questions. 



Mr. Wyden. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me start this round 

 on some matters involving the ingredient situation. Mr. Taddeo, 

 and I hope I'm not doing violence to the pronunciation of 



Mr. Taddeo. Taddeo. 



Mr. Wyden. Excuse me. I noted yesterday that the ingredients 

 from the smokeless tobacco industry were not included in the in- 

 dustry disclosure yesterday. Is your organization prepared to make 

 your ingredient list public, as well, on the additives? 



Mr. Taddeo. Mr. Wyden, you have to appreciate that that was 

 a surprise to us yesterday. I haven't had a chance to speak to the 

 other members of the industry, the smokeless tobacco industry. I 

 can't speak for them. But I know we'll be meeting shortly on that 

 subject. 



Mr. Wyden. Do you personally favor making smokeless tobacco 

 additives public? 



Mr. Taddeo. The ingredient list? 



Mr. Wyden. Yes. 



Mr. Taddeo. I personally don't have a problem with it. 



Mr. Wyden. OK. 



Mr. Taddeo. Nothing to hide. 



Mr. Wyden. Gentlemen, maybe this question directed to you, Mr. 

 Johnston, if I could. Does the list of additives you supplied the Sec- 

 retary of Health and Human Services include all additives to 

 paper, filters and to non-tobacco smokable materials in the tobacco 

 rods of cigarettes? 



Mr. James Johnston. Please repeat the question. I didn't quite 

 hear. 



Mr. Wyden. What we want to know is whether the list that you 

 give the government includes all the additives to paper, filters, and 

 non-tobacco smokable materials that are in the tobacco rods of your 

 cigarettes. 



Mr. James Johnston. I do not believe that it covers those. It 

 may cover some, it may not. I will clarify that for the record. 



Mr. Wyden. That will be fine. Would you supply the committee 

 with lists of these additives, if those aren't given over to the gov- 

 ernment? 



Mr. James Johnston. I see no reason why not. I would prefer 

 that we do that on an industry basis so we're not revealing brand- 

 specific data. 



Mr. Wyden. Let me ask you a couple of other quick questions 

 with respect to the ingredients. A preliminary analysis of your 



