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for prevention. You know, Medicare Part B has a tiny preventive 

 component. 



So I am very hopeful that we can get your message to the Con- 

 gress about the need to rebuild this system and focus more on 

 keeping people well rather than sick care, and substance abuse is 

 at the heart of it, and we thank you for the contribution. 



Mr. Califano. Thank you, Mr. Wyden. 



Mr. Waxman. Thank you Mr. Wyden. 



Mr. McMillan. 



Mr. McMillan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I really do hope we can get down to facts so that senior citizens 

 or young people can have sensible guidelines that they can live by 

 and not simply hyperbole. 



You mentioned — and I want to try to get a little better under- 

 standing of this — that you had received a letter. You didn't state 

 who the letter was from. 



Mr. Califano. I did read it. The letter is from a lawyer, appar- 

 ently a lawyer at King and Spalding. 



Mr. McMillan. Is there a signature on it? 



Mr. Califano. Yes. It says Theodore M. Hester. It says, "King 

 and Spalding represents Brown and Williamson Tobacco Corpora- 

 tion. We understand that you will participate tomorrow in a hear- 

 ing of the House Subcommittee on Health" 



Mr. McMillan. I understand. Who is the letter from? 



Mr. Califano. Theodore M. Hester, who enclosed a copy of this 

 injunction. It was obviously 



Mr. McMillan. And the letter makes reference to documents. 

 What documents? 



Mr. Califano. Let me just read the letter and then 



Mr. McMillan. You don't need to read the letter. 



Mr. Califano. It says it may include a discussion of one or more 

 articles appearing recently in the New York Times. 



Mr. McMillan. What are those articles? 



Mr. Califano. These articles included references to documents 

 believed to have been stolen and which are subject to a State court 

 injunction 



Mr. McMillan. Are they stolen? 



Mr. Califano. "A copy of that injunction is being provided to you 

 with this letter." 



I have no idea, Mr. McMillan 



Mr. McMillan. Are they stolen documents, Mr. Califano? 



Mr. Califano. I have no idea, Mr. McMillan, but the order they 

 enclose purports to prohibit any discussion of these by all persons 

 who are informed of this restraining order, which is, I think — I 

 haven't practiced law in a long time, but I think that is a — cer- 

 tainly unconstitutional. 



Mr. McMillan. What is the restraining order that you are refer- 

 ring to? 



Mr. Califano. This is a restraining order issued by a judge in 

 Jefferson County, Ky. 



Mr. McMillan. What does the order state? 



Mr. Califano. Well, let me read it because it is the order by 

 which I think they hope to intimidate me and stop me from testify- 

 ing. 



