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Mr. Synar. Let's go on to the review of the Council for Tobacco 

 Research published in the July issue of the American Journal; Ex- 

 hibit 19, if the staff will provide that to the Doctor. 



Doctor, let me quote from Exhibit 19 from the American Journal. 

 "Most of the CTR-funded grant supports biomedical research not 

 related to health consequences of smoking. In a recent survey of 

 principal investigators funded by the CTR grants in 1989 almost 80 

 percent of the respondents indicated that none of their research, 

 current or past, examined the health effects of smoking. 



"Furthermore, the vast majority of industry-supported research 

 that addressed the health affects of smoking produced findings con- 

 sistent with the Surgeon General's conclusion that smoking is a 

 major cause of numerous diseases." 



Are you aware of those findings. Dr. Glenn? 



Mr. Glenn. I am aware of Dr. Warner's article. 



Mr. Synar. Do you agree with the central conclusion? 



Mr. Glenn. What is his conclusion? 



Mr. Waxman. The conclusion that the CTR research is not relat- 

 ed to the health consequences of smoking. 



Mr. Glenn. What was the 



Mr. Synar. That is what the statement is, that the CTR research 

 is, quote, "not related to the health consequences of smoking." Do 

 you agree with that? 



Mr. Glenn. No, sir. 



Mr. Bliley. Can these documents be made available to the mem- 

 bers? We don't have them. 



Mr. Waxman. We will get them to you immediately. 



Mr. Synar. Do you know Dr. Brennan? Is he not a member of 

 your Scientific Advisory Board? 



Mr. Glenn. Yes. 



Mr. Synar. In an article, "Pack of Lies", a BBC documentary, Dr. 

 Brennan is quoted as saying that during his service on the Sci- 

 entific Advisory Board, "very little of the CTR research is related 

 to determining the relationship of smoking to ill health." 



Dr. Brennan goes on to say in this BBC documentary that, "cer- 

 tainly less than Vio of the funds awarded are awarded for the sci- 

 entific study of tobacco-related effects." 



Is Dr. Brennan correct? 



Mr. Glenn. He is correct in the sense that we — I have spent mil- 

 lions of dollars in the past in supporting studies where experi- 

 mental animals were exposed directly to tobacco smoke and that 

 sort of thing. It was very unrewarding. As the Surgeon General's 

 report will point out to you, there has never been an instance in 

 which lung cancer was observed in animals exposed to intense to- 

 bacco smoke. It was an unrewarding avenue of research and we 

 focus now on molecular and cellular aspects, as I have explained. 

 That is what Dr. Brennan was alluding to. 



Mr. Synar. So the quote that, certainly less than one-tenth of the 

 funds of the CTR awarded are awarded for specific study of to- 

 bacco-related effects; you are saying only 10 percent of the budget 

 has anything to do with tobacco? 



Mr. Glenn. When he says specifically related to tobacco prod- 

 ucts, he is talking about research with nicotine, talking about 



