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So, yes, some of the grants have run to very large numbers sim- 

 ply because of the protracted nature of support. 



Mr. Greenwood. When you provide a grant to a university or to 

 a research laboratory, does the Institute control the amount of 

 grant that can be taken by the individual researchers for their sal- 

 aries? 



Mr. Glenn. Yes, sir. We do. We regard — in general, the salary 

 of the investigator is to be a responsibility of the institution. We 

 try in as many instances as possible to limit financial support to 

 support personnel such as lab technicians, to the purchase of sup- 

 plies, experimental animals, publication costs, so forth. 



So it is unusual for an investigator to receive any or even a sig- 

 nificant part of their salary from the grant. 



Mr. Greenwood. OK. 



Another quote from the Wall Street Journal article, "Today Dr. 

 Hamburger adds that Mr. Jacob — and I assume Jacob is from the 

 law firm — told him he would never get a penny more if the paper 

 was published without making the changes." 



This went to the issue of a study that was done by Dr. Ham- 

 burger years later at the Rose Cipollone tobacco liability trial in 

 Federal Court in New Jersey. The issue is whether the researchers 

 could use the term "cancer." Apparently the allegation in the arti- 

 cle is that the law firm representing the Institute did not want the 

 researchers to use the term "cancer", they wanted them to use 

 more obscure medical terminology. Dr. Hamburger allegedly re- 

 sisted that and claims he was told by Mr. Jacob that his refusal 

 would end his funding. What is your response to that allegation? 



Mr. Glenn. First of all, I didn't know Dr. Hamburger and I 

 didn't know Mr. Jacob. But I do know the circumstances. 



Dr. Hamburger was a grantee of the Council for Tobacco Re- 

 search. He was working on the induction of lung tumors in ani- 

 mals. His work was very nonproductive. 



He was able to produce only a superficial change in the epithe- 

 lium of the lung, never any tumors. As a consequence, the Sci- 

 entific Advisory Board declined to extend his funding. He was fund- 

 ed I think for some 6 years. But the work was nonproductive and 

 they did not renew his grant. 



I think his statements may reflect some bitterness at the fact 

 that his funding was not continued. He was not successful in get- 

 ting funding from any other agency. 



Mr. Greenwood. How do you respond to that part of his allega- 

 tion that says that he was asked not to use the term "cancer" in 

 his research but to use 



Mr. Glenn. Because our Scientific Advisory Board could not con- 

 firm that he had induced cancer; only superficial changes. 



Mr. Greenwood. Another quote from the article, "By 1968 the 

 Council had begun putting researchers under contract for many 

 studies. This gave it the right to control both the studies design 

 and publication of the results." 



I believe in response to an earlier question that I asked, you indi- 

 cated that there were not contracts, they were in fact grant letters. 

 There seems to be an inconsistency. 



Mr. Glenn. No. Contract research was done. It was not a promi- 

 nent part of the activity of the Council for Tobacco Research. As 



