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If that body did come up with the same findings as the Surgeon General 

 did, what would the attitude of the tobacco people be about the present 

 legislation? 



Mr. GRAY. To begin with the grantees who receive money under the 

 scientific advisory board; that is, the vehicle which handles these grants, 

 are perfectly free and certainly requested to publish whatever findings thev 

 may arrive at in the course of their investigations. These, however, are 

 scientifically and medically oriented and directed research programs and 

 are not concerned with surveys and statistical reports. 



Mr. GRAY. The group that have been handling this money here have made 

 public all the findings , as far as I know, of this research. Up to now none of 

 it has come up with a positive answer which would be in the area that this 

 causes ill health or this is injurious. 



Mr, MACDONALD. If they did? 



Mr. GRAY. If they did thev would bring it out. Then what do we do? 



Mr. MACDONALD. Yes, sir. 



Mr. GRAY. We get awfully fast to work to see what we can do about it. 



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Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Curtin? 



Mr. CURTIN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Gray, assuming that it was proven beyond all doubt that cigarette 

 smoking did cause cancer of the lung and bronchitis, would you then feel 

 that the Federal Trade Commission was fair and reasonable in making a 

 request for a notice, such as they have outlined, on all packages of 

 cigarettes? 



Mr. GRAY. I believe you assumed that it had been proven beyond doubt 

 that this was a fact; yes, sir. 



Mr. CURTIN. You think such a notice would then be justified? 



Mr. GRAY. I think you would have a whole lot more than just the Federal 

 Trade Commission Act involved in such a situation. 



Mr. CURTIN. Assuming that it was proven, do you think it would be all 

 right for the Federal Trade Commission to require such a notice? 



Mr. GRAY. I do not know how you prove this and that is one of the 

 problems. If it is proven that cigarettes are harmful, we want to do 

 something about it regardless of what somebody else tells us to do. And we 

 would to our level best. This is just being human. 



