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Mr. Waxman. I want to evaluate this statement about nicotine 

 being for taste and not for drug-like purposes. In 1962, Sir Charles 

 Ellis, who was scientific adviser to BAT, presented a lengthy paper 

 at the BAT research conference in Southampton, and Sir Ellis de- 

 scribed the issues relating to smoking and health this way. 



If we could have the statement up there. I want to draw your at- 

 tention, and I will read the bold type provisions, "it is my conclu- 

 sion that nicotine is a very remarkable, beneficent drug that both 

 helps the body to resist external stress and also can, as a result, 

 show a pronounced tranquilizing effect." 



And then further down he says, "nicotine is not only a very fine 

 drug, but the techniques of administration by smoking has consid- 

 erable psychological advantages," In other words, Mr. Ellis, or Sir 

 Charles Ellis who worked for your parent company, seemed to rep- 

 resent a view about nicotine being a drug. 



Do you disagree with that, with his views? 



Mr. Sandefur. Whatever that says, it says, sir. 



Mr. Waxm.\n. Would you disagree with his view that nicotine is 

 a drug? 



Mr. Sandefur. Yes, sir, I would. 



Mr. Waxman. OK. 



Mr. Sandefur. I absolutely would. 



Mr. Waxman. OK. Now, you do acknowledge that it does rep- 

 resent a view of an important person at BAT at least as early as 

 the 1960s? 



Mr. Sandefur. Sir Charles Ellis was a scientist in BATCO, yes, 

 sir, I understand that. But we have scientists in our other sister 

 companies as well. 



Mr. Waxman. OK. Now, let me give you some similar quotations 

 from people involved with your company. Chart number seven, if 

 we could have that put up. The quote was that "nicotine interacts 

 with specialized sites in the body termed receptors or (nicotinic 

 colinergic receptors)," that was "in its simplest sense puffing behav- 

 ior is the means of providing nicotine dose in a metered fashion." 



And then in 1984, further, a BAT researcher at a conference on 

 own smoking and marketing, Rob Ferris said, if we have that also 

 on that statement, "it is apparent that nicotine largely underpins 

 the contributions through its role as a generator of central physio- 

 logical arousal effects which express themselves as changes in 

 human performance and psychological well-being." 



Let me ask unanimous consent to place all these articles and 

 conferences on nicotine and health effects discussed at the hearing 

 as well as all the charts used in the questioning in the record. 

 Without objection. 



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