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Mr. Synar. And the documents that will show that you moved 

 from an experimental use for a commercial use? 



Mr. Sandefur. Certainly. I'll be more than happy to do that. 



Mr, Synar. Also, would you provide for the record whether your 

 move to commercial production was consistent with the terms 

 under which you received the plant from the USDA? It is our un- 

 derstanding that the terms were only for experimental purposes. 



Mr. Sandefur. I will be more than happy to give you any infor- 

 mation you request, yes, sir. 



Mr. Synar. You have admitted that the Y-1 was grown in Brazil 

 by your sister company. How did you get those seeds to Brazil? 



Mr. Sandefur. I learned last Monday morning, I was briefed on 

 the session that our people had with the FDA on Friday. I don't 

 know the answer to that question, but I can tell you that I have 

 asked for a study to be done to find out. 



Mr. Synar. Will you provide it for the record. 



Mr. Sandefur. As soon as I know, I will certainly let you know, 

 yes. 



Mr. Synar. Will you provide for the record how many shipments 

 of Y-1 seeds and how much seed was exported to Brazil? 



Mr. Sandefur. Yes, if in fact seed was exported, I don't know 

 that, Congressman. 



Mr. Synar. Were other shipments of Y-1 seed made to other 

 countries outside the United States? How many shipments were 

 made and to where? 



Mr. Sandefur. Again, I am going to have to get back to you on 

 that. I don't know. 



Mr. Synar. You will provide that. OK. 



Until the end of 1991, export permits were required in order to 

 ship tobacco seeds and plants overseas. Did you or your contractor 

 obtain the necessary permits for those shipments? 



Mr. Sandefur. That is — that is being looked at today. I under- 

 stand that is required. I can't answer that question. 



Mr. Synar. Will you provide that for the record? 



Mr. Sandefur. As soon as I find out, I'll let you know, yes. 



Mr. Synar. Will you provide all the permits that you have? 



Mr. Sandefur. Certainly. I want you to understand. Congress- 

 man, we will give you anjrthing that we have on the subject of Y- 

 1. 



Mr. Synar. Now, the 



Mr. Sandefur. Or anything else that you ask for. 



Mr. Synar. Now, the export permit granted is usually on the con- 

 dition that the seed or plant would be only used experimentally. 

 There is a limit of a half ounce on how much can be exported. But 

 last Friday, Brown & Williamson informed the FDA that several 

 annual shipments of about a million pounds were imported by 

 Brown & Williamson. 



How did you manage to grow and ship millions of pounds of Y- 

 1 if the USDA permits only experimental quantities of seed to 

 leave the country in the first place? 



Mr. Sandefur. That's a good question, I don't know. But I can 

 tell you 



Mr. Synar. Will you provide the subcommittee with those docu- 

 ments? 



