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Mr. Sandefur. Ones that work for me, you are right, I listen to 

 those. 



Mr. Waxman. All of their studies point to different pharma- 

 cological effects of nicotine, so would you acknowledge the fact that 

 they have found that there is a pharmacological effect from nicotine 

 that causes the body to respond? 



Mr. Sandefur. If you have 



Mr. Waxman. In the brain waves and 



Mr. Sandefur. If you have documents that are Brown & 

 Williamson studies. 



Mr. Waxman. Or British-American Tobacco Company. 



Mr. Sandefuh. No, sir, that are Brown & Williamson studies and 

 that my scientists have endorsed that concept, cerxainly I agree. I 

 have not discussed that specific subject with my scientists, but I'll 

 be more than happ}' to. 



Mr. Waxman. Well, we do have specific Brown & Williamson 

 studies and one of which was with regard to the alpha rhythms, 

 the impact of cigarette smoke on the brain, the wave alpha rhythm. 

 This was prepared by R.F. Brodsky and Dr. J.E. Kennedy for 

 Brown & Williamson. 



But I can't see why you could distinguish between your Brown 

 & Williamson researchers and your parent company's researchers 

 and your sister company's researchers when, after all, you did work 

 with this Y-1 plant with your sister company in Brazil. Why 

 wouldn't you take the word of your researchers that worked for 

 your company and your parent company? 



Mr. Sandefur. Because I rely on my scientists. 



Mr. Waxman. Thank you, Mr. Brj'ant. 



Mr. Bryant. You said a moment ago that you don't believe that 

 nicotine is addictive, that you think it is just a very important fac- 

 tor in taste to the consumer. 



If indeed nicotine only affects taste, why do you take offense at 

 suggestions that you might raise or lower the levels of nicotine in 

 your cigarettes? 



Mr. Sandefur. The nicotine is a very important — as I under- 

 stand it, is a very important constituent of taste. The lowering of 

 nicotine or the raising of nicotine could have to be tested to deter- 

 mine if in fact the blend is acceptable to the smoker. 



Mr. Bryant. You have denied extensively increasing or lowering 

 the levels of nicotine in your products. You said we do not spike 

 our cigarettes with more nicotine. 



Mr. Sandefur. Right. That's correct. 



Mr. Bryant. Why do you go to great lengths to defend against 

 this suggestion if in fact nicotine, as you have said, only affects 

 taste? 



Mr. Sandefur. Well, Congressman, the reason we deny that is 

 because we don't do it. That's the important aspect of it. It has 

 nothing to do with what we think is important. 



Mr. Bryant. Then my question is: Why don't you do it if it only 

 affects the taste? 



Mr. Sandefur. Because there are other ways — ^you know, I could 

 go or our people I assume could go out and buy nicotine and put 

 in it our cigarettes, but we don't do that. 



