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And again, additional to that, we are hopeful that any of that 

 takes place, that the minority staff will also be made aware of it 

 so they can be a part of it. 



Mr. Waxman. I think that's a reasonable request. 



Mr. BiLlRAKlS. And your reasonable response? 



Mr. Waxman. I'm a reasonable man. 



Mr. BiLiRAKiS. I take that as a yes? 



Mr. Waxman. Yes. 



You can take it as yes. Mr. Sandefur, we have two votes on the 

 House Floor. We are going to take a recess. It's not a very long one, 

 but we do have many members who have questions and we are 

 going to go a second round, so I would like to have us come back 

 here at 1 o'clock. 



Mr. Sandefur. I have one request of you, Mr. Chairman. I have 

 a plane to catch tonight at 6 o'clock and I would like to make that. 

 I need to be in London tomorrow morning. 



Mr. Waxman. I certainly hope we will be able to accommodate 

 you. 



Mr. Sandefur. Thank you, sir. 



Mr. Waxman. We will recess until 1 p.m. 



[Brief recess.] 



Mr. Waxman. The meeting of the subcommittee will come back 

 to order. 



It is unfortunate we are meeting at a time when the House is 

 also in session and we may be interrupted occasionally by votes 

 and that they are unpredictable. 



Mr. Kreidler, you were next and I want to recognize you now for 

 your first round of questions. 



Mr. Kriedler. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Sandefur, I want to begin by just commending you for the 

 way you have conducted yourself before this committee. You have 

 done a very capable and able job and I commend you for that. I 

 know it is not easy. 



Mr. Sandefur. Thank you, sir. 



Mr. Kreidler. Let me begin by asking a series of questions here 

 about what are generally labeled as enhancers. The ingredient list 

 that has been released includes ammonia and urea as added ingre- 

 dients to tobacco. 



Does B&W add ammonia and urea to tobacco? 



Mr. Sandefur. It is something we do in terms of the process, 

 yes. 



Mr. Kreidler. Do you have knowledge as to whether this is a 

 common practice in the industry? 



Mr. Sandefur. It is my understanding that a number of tobacco 

 manufacturers do use ammonia. I don't know about urea. 



Mr. Kreidler. What other companies would add ammonia that 

 you might know of, if you don't know about urea? 



Mr. Sandefur. I have testified previously about the reverse engi- 

 neering project we took forward in terms of the Philip Morris prod- 

 uct, Marlboro. I believe they do. I believe R.J. Reynolds does to a 

 certain extent. I don't think Liggett does and I'm recalling — please 

 understand I don't want to be held in contempt because I'm trying 

 to answer your question. I'm recalling this from memory. 



