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Mr. Sandefur. Yes, sir, we will be more than happy to provide 

 that. 



Mr. Waxman. I just want to close my comments by indicating to 

 you that 40 years ago, January 4, 1954, your company published 

 what was called a frank statement to cigarette smokers in The 

 New York Times and other leading newspapers, and it said, "We 

 accept an interest in people's health as a basic responsibility para- 

 mount for every other consideration in our business." 



And the company also pledged to cooperate closely with those 

 whose task it is to safeguard the public health. I have trouble see- 

 ing how one can square pledges in the frank statement to the pub- 

 lic and actions such as Project Truth and Project Janus if the com- 

 pany says the public's health is paramount yet your company told 

 the public that smoking is not dangerous even while it had exten- 

 sive evidence from animal studies that showed that smoking is 

 dangerous. 



It seems to me that there is a inconsistency, to put it mildly. A 

 minimal standard of corporate responsibility ought to require 

 Brown & Williamson to disclose the results of Janus not conceal 

 them as deadwood. That apparently is what in fact happened, even 

 though your lawyer doesn't want you to comment on it. 



Any comment you want to make? 



Mr. Sandefur. No, sir, I wasn't there 40 years ago. I don't know. 



Mr. Waxman. By the way, that lawyer who made that rec- 

 ommendation is still your lawyer, isn't he, J. Kendrick Wells? 



Mr. Sandefur. Yes, sir, he works for Brown & Williamson. 



Mr. Waxman. Thank you. 



Mr. McMillan. 



Mr. McMillan. Is there something out of order, Mr. Chairman? 



Mr. Waxman. No. 



Mr. McMillan. I'd like to go back to a chart that has been re- 

 ferred to repeatedly today. That is labeled data from Dr. Neal 

 Benowitz. Could I ask the clerk to replace that on the stand. 



Mr. Sandefur, is that a pretty representative list of the array of 

 cigarette products? Can you read that? What it is, if anyone can't 

 see it, is a list of brands, some 12 to 15, and it has measurements 

 of nicotine content by 3 different standards. The first column is 

 percent nicotine; the second is nicotine by weight, milligram; and 

 the third is nicotine yield in milligrams which is, I think, the 

 standard FTC measurement of nicotine content. 



Is that correct? 



Mr. Sandefur. Yes, sir, that's correct. 



Mr. McMillan. And that is what you have to disclose with re- 

 spect to any of your products? 



Mr. Sandefur. That's correct, yes, sir. 



Mr. McMillan. Do you have to disclose anything else in addition 

 to that? The items in the first two columns is by percent and 

 weight and were derived from some other source. 



Mr. Sandefl^. Right. We have to disclose to the FTC the tar and 

 nicotine levels in all of our cigarettes. 



Mr. McMillan. And that's based on a yield basis? 



Mr. Sandefur. Yes. Per cigarette. 



Mr. McMillan. That's produced by what you call a smoking ma- 

 chine? 



