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problem, they have got to also specify or set a limit on the number 

 of congressionally mandated cigarettes that could be smoked in a 

 day. 



Mr. Sandeftjr. Yes, sir, I would think that would be the case. 



Mr. McMillan, Yes. That would be rather difficult to manage, 

 wouldn't it? 



Mr. Sandefur. As I testified, that would in my opinion be impos- 

 sible and that brings us to the issue of the black market. 



Mr. McMillan. And I think we raised the point earlier that if 

 this product is truly addictive, if there is some identifiable amount 

 of nicotine that a person needs a day to remain addicted, then the 

 law is going to have to try to get specific about that which is going 

 to be extremely difficult to enforce. 



Do you all produce any cigarettes that would have a nicotine 

 yield higher than the Lucky Strike 70 millimeter which is 1.46? 



Mr. Sandefur. Yes, sir. We market a product called Raleigh 

 Extra King which is a nonfilter cigarette that has a nicotine deliv- 

 ery of 1.5 milligrams. 



Mr. McMillan. So it is essentially in the same range. 



Mr. Sandefur. Essentially the same range, yes, sir. 



Mr. McMillan. Right. Would you say that — I don't think you 

 would, but here we've got a whole array of cigarettes that have dif- 

 ferent nicotine yields on this scale, and then from the bottom of 

 this scale ranging all the way up to what you say is the strongest 

 nicotine yield that you produce, a range of maybe almost 20 times 

 the amount of nicotine yield from the bottom to the top. 



Is — and your top is a fairly standard brand that you've described 

 as representing a normal blend of flue-cured tobacco. What do you 

 say to the charge that somebody is manipulating the amount of nic- 

 otine in that array of cigarettes? 



Mr. Sandefur. Well, as I've stated previously, I have a great 

 deal of trouble with the term "manipulation" because that in my 

 opinion implies something illegal or sinister or something that we 

 are doing that is not in the best interests of the American public. 



We market a wide variety of cigarettes with a wide variety of 

 nicotine levels. For instance, our Kool Ultra King size product has 

 a 0.2 level of nicotine and a 2 milligram tar level. I think that 

 would be the — that's the lowest that I see on this list and we have 

 talked about the Raleigh King sized nonfilter which is the highest. 

 It has 26 milligrams of tar and 1.5 milligrams of nicotine. 



And we have everything in between. And it is all based on the 

 blending of the cigarette, and we blend for taste and the consumer 

 tells us if they like it or not. 



Mr. McMillan. And so nothing, it would appear, within this 

 range would indicate that any of the manufacturers of these ciga- 

 rettes is trying to manipulate the product to elevate nicotine in 

 order to increase the frequency of use or the total use of product. 



In fact, the opposite is true, that most of them represent a reduc- 

 tion in the nicotine output from a normal blend by the inclusion 

 of filters. So I think it's important that 



Mr. Sandefur. Congressman, I might add to that, the higher tar 

 and nicotine brands are, to put it bluntly, going out of business in 

 the United States. People are not smoking those cigarettes any- 

 more. They represent a very small percentage of the total sale of 



