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big response, everybody on their feet cheering last night for that 

 one, and I was among them. 



I don't know how we do a better job with Superfund, but I know 

 we have got to do something, I know that. 



We are way over our normal time here and I appreciate you 

 being here. Obviously, we could go on all afternoon on this. I do 

 have a number of questions still on some international issues and 

 on regulatory review. 



I go back to Ohio and the way wetlands is being interpreted now, 

 you go along mowing the grass along the road, you have got a cat- 

 tail over there in the ditch, you have got to pull that cutter bar as 

 you go by, put it on down, or you are breaking the law. 



Dr. Hair. You should not have built that highway in the wet- 

 lands in the first place. Senator. [Laughter.] 



Chairman Glenn. Or you talk about a farmer that used to plow 

 every year out there some place, and he has a low spot in the land 

 and now it develops some subsurface water and moss and some 

 aquatic thing in that area, because you go to no-till, you don't plow 

 it every year now. Now, though, once every 7 or 8 years, even 

 under no-till, you have to plow that stuff up. By law, he cannot 

 plow it up now, if he has got a cattail in there or whatever it is. So 

 you have some interpretations in environmental things that people 

 just see as just absolutely ridiculous. So this environmental review 

 and regulatory review and some of the environmental things have 

 to be looked at, too. 



Dr. Hair. It is important, though, to remember that basically ag- 

 ricultural practices are exempted from section 404 of the Clean 

 Water Act. 



Chairman Glenn. Yes. Anyway, I will submit some questions to 

 you for your early response, so we can include this as part of the 

 record. 



Chairman Glenn. I am sorry we kept you so long today, but it 

 has been very interesting, and obviously we could go on for days 

 here. 



Thank you much. 



The hearing stands in recess subject to the call of the Chair. 



[Whereupon, at 12:27 p.m., the Committee adjourned, subject to 

 call of the Chair.] 



