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Mr. Lancaster. The Commission resolution, Mr. Coates, in sup- 

 port of Federal action suggested incentives to encourage compli- 

 ance, but this bill contains no such incentives, only penalties. I 

 wonder if you could comment further on the need for incentives 

 and what those incentives might be as opposed to only sanctions? 



Mr. Coates. That is true. The moratorium, of course, looms as 

 the most formidable obstacle with any State's desire to fish out of 

 compliance, and as an incentive, of course, we have bandied about 

 at the Commission level the idea of financial incentives, somewhat 

 to the financial incentives I believe that were developed for the In- 

 terjurisdictional Fisheries Act which allowed States to recover up 

 to 95 percent reimbursements for activities consistent with the ac- 

 tions of that legislation. 



So it would seem to me that financial incentives would be some- 

 thing that would be very appropriate consistent with our earlier 

 comments about the need for encouraging funding. So if a State 

 was in compliance, they would get perhaps more funding for the 

 actions necessary to carry out the provisions of the Act. 



Mr. Lancaster. I wish that for the record we could be supplied 

 with a list of States covered by various Commission plans that are 

 not in compliance with the various plans now in effect. If you 

 would please provide that for us. 



Mr. Coates. We would be glad to provide you with that list. The 

 list ranges — I think it was either Dr. Tillman or the other speaker 

 that indicated that 17 of the plans or 15 of 17 of the plans are not 

 in total compliance, and that ranges from very minor instances. I 

 think in the case of Massachusetts, we never implemented a men- 

 haden plan because we no longer have a significant menhaden fish- 

 ery. And, you know, that kind of thing is just a matter of regula- 

 tory cleanup from my perspective — two of the more specific cases 

 of noncompliance where we do have problems, and we will be glad 

 to provide you with that list, Mr. Chairman. 



[The supplemental material supplied by Mr. Coates appears at 

 the end of the hearing.] 



Mr. Lancaster. OK, do either of the counsel have additional 

 questions for this panel? OK, the counsel will submit additional 

 questions for the record. Thank you for your testimony. We will 

 now call the second panel for their testimony. We will call forward 

 Mark Reeff who is with the International Association of Fish and 

 Wildlife Agencies; Mr. Gordon Colvin of the New York Division of 

 Marine Resources; Andy Loftus, Research Specialist for the Sport 

 Fishing Institute; Jerry Schill, Executive Director of the iNorth 

 Carolina Fisheries Association; and Bill Goldsborough, Fisheries 

 Expert with the Chesapeake Bay Foundation. 



Again, in the interest of time, I would encourage each of the wit- 

 nesses to submit their testimony for the record in full but summa- 

 rize that testimony in the oral presentation. Without objection, 

 each of your full statements will be admitted into the record imme- 

 diately following your oral presentation. Mr. Reeff, you may begin. 



