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Mr. Laughlin. My point is, and I hope I have made it clear, that 

 I think we need the bill, and it needs to be utilized in those areas 

 where we have people using the beach, and I represent some of 

 those areas. But I also represent, and I know there is other areas 

 where you just don't have any people out there and I don't want to 

 see our counties strapped with testing that is not needed. 



Mr. Hughes. Will the gentleman yield to me? 



Mr. Laughlin. Yes. 



Mr. Hughes. We have areas in New Jersey, too, where people 

 don't swim, and we don't test, or monitor. While we have many 

 nice bathing beaches, we also have areas like those in Texas, where 

 people don't swim. Perhaps they are not as expansive as those in 

 Texas, but we are aware of the problems, and that is why the bill 

 was written as it was, based upon use. 



Mr. Ortiz. Gentlemen, we have a Floor vote, but 



Mr. Laughlin. I yield back. I hope I have made my point. I think 

 I have. 



Hopefully, when this — some of the people from the EPA come 

 back in time to see how this bill is working as law, we will have a 

 good report. 



Mr. Ortiz. Let me assure the members of the panel that all the 

 written testimony that you have submitted today will be included 

 for the record, and there were some members who were here 

 before, and they had to leave for other business. They may have 

 some other questions, that we will write to you, and we hope that 

 you can respond to the questions from the different members. 



[The responses can be found at the end of the hearing.] 



Mr. Ortiz. This concludes the testimony for this panel, and I 

 want to thank you for the valuable testimony and insights that you 

 shared with us today. I think that we have heard interesting testi- 

 mony this afternoon that will be useful to the Subcommittee as we 

 continue consideration of H.R. 31. 



Thank you very much for being with us. 



Thank you, and the hearing is adjourned. 



[Whereupon, at 4:04 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned, and 

 the following was submitted for the record: 



