Mr. DeFazio. I thank the gentleman..!, too, read the article. I 

 was interested to see that the measure of civilization was espresso 

 coffee in Lakeview. I can just see the tourist boom down there. 



Mr. Smith of Oregon. It's really coming. 



Mr. DeFazio. With that, well move along to testimony. I assiune 

 everybody submitted written testimony. W^at I would urge you to 

 do is use your time as allocated and since we have about 20 wit- 

 nesses — and we have questions — we're going to try and keep people 

 to the ten minutes pretty strictly. 



So summarize, make your most cogent points, however you wish 

 to use that ten minutes, and watch for the little lights there. The 

 yellow light will go on with one minute left and then the red light 

 when you're done, and 111 let you finish then. It's when you're done 

 and that's about it, because we've really got to move along if we're 

 going to hear from everybody. 



The staff kept sajdng too many people, you can't have more peo- 

 ple, and I kept sajdng, weU, there's a lot of views to be heard here 

 and I want to hear a lot of different views. So we have a very ambi- 

 tious schedule. 



I assume we'll just take people in the order of the witness Ust. 

 So we'll then start with Mr. Randy Hardy, Administrator of BPA, 

 and Ms. Sue Hickey, Assistant Administrator for Energy Re- 

 sources; however you wish to use your time. 



PANEL CONSISTING OF RANDALL W. HARDY, ADMINISTRATOR, 

 BONNEVILLE POWER ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF 

 ENERGY, PORTLAND, OR, ACCOMPANIED BY SUE HICKEY, 

 ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR FOR ENERGY RESOURCES; 

 STAN GRACE, CHAIRMAN, NORTHWEST POWER PLANNING 

 COUNCIL, PORTLAND, OR, ACCOMPANIED BY ANGUS DUN- 

 CAN, COUNCIL MEMBER; AND CHRISTINE ERVIN, DIRECTOR, 

 OREGON DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY 



STATEMENT OF RANDALL W. HARDY 



Mr. Hardy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm deUghted to be here 

 this morning to talk about our resource acquisition program. I'll 

 make a few general comments and then have Sue Hickey, Assist- 

 ant Administrator for Energy Resources, follow up on some of the 

 specifics that we have in our testimony and that speak to some of 

 the issues that were raised in others' testimony. 



Bonneville has a good track record in resource acquisitions over 

 the last 12 years or 13 years since the passage of the Power Act, 

 and particularly in conservation. You will hear a lot of testimony 

 today, some of it supportive, some of it critical. 



We can certainly improve. We've spent a little over a billion dol- 

 lars on conservation acquisitions in the last 12 years. We've ac- 

 quired nearly 400 megawatts of conservation in a time of surplus. 

 We've received awards fi-om some of the environmental organiza- 

 tions who will speak to you today and they will urge us to do more. 



But, in fact, I think we have a fairly good track record and we 

 can build on that when seeking to improve ourselves in the days 

 ahead. 



Although it's principally the subject of your next hearing, Mr. 

 Chairman, one of the other factors that we're trjdng to deal with 



