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make it more difficult for people to make arbitrary decisions based 

 on individual Council members' personal interests. 



Ms. Unsoeld. And that comes out of your observation of the 

 whole agency for a period of time, not just one particular investiga- 

 tion? 



Mr. DeGeorge. That is correct. 



Ms. Unsoeld. And how about on 13? 



Mr. DeGeorge. This is again the authority issue as well as indi- 

 vidual responsibility. The key is that the authority of the scientific 

 panels should be formalized; they ought to be called on to produce 

 specific data. There ought to be a requirement of certain types of 

 votes. 



This is another issue that should move the Councils towards get- 

 ting to the position of providing the fishery management staff and 

 the Council members with information to make the members as 

 knowledgeable as they can. Public disclosure is fine but scientific 

 information made available within the Council on a prescribed nec- 

 essary request is in the best interest of everyone. 



Ms. Unsoeld. I thank you very much, Mr. DeGeorge, and I 

 thank you for the work that you have done. 



Mr. DeGeorge. Thank you, ma'am. 



Mr. Manton. I see no other members seeking recognition, there- 

 fore, we will conclude our hearing for today. Thank you, Mr. 

 DeGeorge, Mr. Weaver, and thank you. Subcommittee members, 

 also. 



Mr. DeGeorge. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



[Whereupon, at 2:28 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned, and 

 the following was submitted for the record:] 



