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I would think that there is a place where, if we could have a ship- 

 yard that made both merchant vessels and naval vessels and did it 

 with the latest high tech, I think that would be great for our coun- 

 try. There is a lot of work there. But if you use really new technol- 

 ogy maybe you could be competitive internationally. 



There are a lot of ways that government labs have been using to 

 get involved in technology transfer. The NRL has done very well. 

 Patent licensing, I think that should be pushed. There is som.ething 

 called a CRADA. I am not an expert on the rules on that, but some 

 people like CRADAs. Sandia likes CRADAs. 



I feel that the United States is the leader in oceanographic tech- 

 nology, and the world leader in physical oceanography. And there 

 is no major problem with that I know of right at this minute. 



I will stop while the light is green. You can tell I am not direct- 

 ing anything. 



[The prepared statement of Dr. Schmitz can be found at the end 

 of the hearing.] 



Mr. Ortiz. We have had some very interesting testimony this 

 afternoon. I think there is a tremendous amount of potential here. 

 We have at least three Members of this Subcommittee who are 

 Members of the Armed Services Committee. I think this is a sub- 

 ject that is of great interest to us. 



We have been joined this afternoon by the Ranking Minority 

 Member here, a good friend, the distinguished gentleman from 

 Pennsylvania, Mr. Weldon. 



Would you like to address the witnesses? 



STATEMENT OF HON. CURT WELDON, A U.S. REPRESENTATIVE 

 FROM PENNSYLVANIA 



Mr. Weldon. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



First let me apologize to each of you for not being here at the 

 beginning. But we have a very hectic week going on, as you know. 

 Being on both the Merchant Marine Committee and Armed Serv- 

 ices Committee, we are about to begin the general debate on the 

 1994 Defense Authorization Bill today. So I have been tied up m 

 preparing for that. I apologize. 



I will read all of your testimony. I have looked at the analysis of 

 the statements you have made. I am very much interested in find- 

 ing ways that we can help you all achieve a higher level of what 

 you are already doing, and that is sharing information and looking 

 at ways that we can benefit from dual use technology and share 

 the research and ongoing activities of the military with the com- 

 mercial and private sector. 



Mr. Hochbrueckner and Mr. Ortiz, our Chairman, sat through 

 the hearings; so I will defer to them for initial questions. I appreci- 

 ate you all coming in. This will be the beginning of an ongoing 

 dialog as we get into Defense conversion very heavily as the De- 

 fense bill moves through the Floor and through the process of the 

 Congress. 



Mr. Ortiz. Thank you. 



We have also been joined by my good friend from the small city 

 of Houston, Texas, who is a Member of the Committee here. 



Would you like to address the panel of witnesses, Mr. Green? 



