19 



Mr. Green. I also want to apologize for not being here earlier. It 

 was not lack of interest, because the impact of sharing technology 

 for — even though we come from a small city, we have a large port 

 and the sharing of that information between private industry and 

 military is so important. 



I would hope that even during the questions and answers we can 

 see how we can expand even more of the sharing that has been 

 going on for many years. 



Thank you. 



Mr. Ortiz. I know my good friend from New York State, this is 

 his area of expertise. I would like to refer now to Mr. Hoch- 

 brueckner, to see if he has any questions for the panel. 



Mr. HocHBRUECKNER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Actually I will 

 be brief in light of the time constraints. 



Dr. Baker, on the Pacific Marine Environmental Lab Program, 

 in essence, where you capture data and real time data link it back 

 to Oregon to the lab, are you doing high speed processing on that 

 data at all in order to detect the seismic activity with volcanos and 

 what have you? 



I wondered if you are into any parallel computing activity 

 through that facility? 



Dr. OsTENSO. I am answering for Dr. Baker in his absence. My 

 name is Ned Ostenso. I am Assistant Administrator for Research. 



We are not doing parallel processing on that data now. We are 

 developing a parallel processing capability within our environmen- 

 tal research laboratories. The level of processing of these data we 

 are doing now is very primitive. The signal that we get is very 

 robust. We can at least locate and determine a lot of information 

 with a primitive signal processing we have. 



If we had all the censors of the array channeled into the labora- 

 tory and had a more sophisticated data processing capability, then 

 we could find out a great deal more information of what is going 

 on. 



We are just at square one of this whole experiment. As my col- 

 league from NRL pointed out, in the transfer from government to 

 industry or from defense to civilian products, there are substantial 

 investment and conversion that has to go on. We are prepared to 

 make that investment because we see its value is so great. But 

 right now the processing is primitive. 



Mr. HocHBRUECKNER. Then let us know when you are ready to 

 get into high speed stuff, and we will tell you who to go talk to 

 with parallel processing. 



Dr. Ostenso. Very good. I would love to do that. 



Mr. HocHBRUECKNER. Dr. Hartwig, in your testimony you wrote, 

 although you didn't speak about it, but you wrote about the air- 

 borne electromagnetic bathymetry system. I was wondering, would 

 that be useful, in essence, from moving hazards from waterways? 



It seems to me from the way it was written up in your testimony 

 that you should be able to defect underwater submerged articles, 

 especially where we have had flooding and we are trying to figure 

 out where we ought to be removing and sensitive to things from 

 the navigation point of view. 



Dr. Hartwig. I cannot say specifically. It has been used by the 

 Corps of Engineers to locate varied remnants in the flood control 



