the outcome will be of the interagency task group, but remain 

 hopeful that a cost-effective mix of missions may be found. 



The defense and intelligence agencies also operate other highly 

 classified assets. Although we cannot provide further information 

 about classified assets in this forum, NOAA is participating with 

 others in the Environmental Task Force process to identify poten- 

 tial applications for beneficial civilian purposes. 



As an example of processes to implement dual use, there was leg- 

 islation in 1992 directing use of intelligence assets to support en- 

 forcement of driftnet fishing regulations (the High Seas Driftnet 

 Fisheries Enforcement Act, Public Law 102-582). In this case, 

 NOAA and the intelligence agency involved are in the process of 

 establishing a separate Memorandum of Understanding. The appli- 

 cation has proven very successful, and provides a capability we 

 simply could not afford to match with more traditional ship and 

 aircraft patrols. 



The Department of Defense also cooperates with NOAA in pro- 

 viding access to, and use of, the Defense Meteorological Satellite 

 Program (DMSP) data. For example, the Special Sensor Micro- 

 wave/Imager data is used by NOAA researchers to study the soil 

 wetness, precipitation, and similar subject's index. NOAA recently 

 provided this data to the Vice President for his Midwest "Flood" 

 briefing. NOAA participates in the shared processing data network 

 for the exchange of meteorological satellite data and products. 

 Also, NOAA provides the archive service for selected Defense Mete- 

 orological Satellite Program data sets. 



NOAA strongly supports the concept of dual use for environmen- 

 tal purposes. A period of testing is needed to prove the value of 

 each application, but the process should go forward. 



Dual use implies civil access to environmental data. We believe 

 that NOAA can contribute significantly to the conversion for civil- 

 ian use of defense and intelligence assets and their historic data. 



On the whole, except for ships and some other specialized facili- 

 ties, NOAA believes that these assets should be operated in their 

 parent agencies, preserving the integrity of the assets for defense 

 applications. Dual use, however, would also allow the assets to be 

 used to preserve our Nation's environmental and economic securi- 

 ty. This is an important goal and one in which our defense-related 

 assets can offer valuable contributions. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This concludes my testimony. I would 

 be pleased to respond to any questions from you or other members 

 of the Subcommittee. 



[The prepared statement of Dr. Baker can be found at the end of 

 the hearing.] 



Mr. Ortiz. Thank you very much. 



Mr. Ortiz. Dr. Oswald. 



STATEMENT OF DR. ROBERT OSWALD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, 

 STRATEGIC ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT 

 PROGRAM 



Dr. Oswald. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. I am Bob Oswald, 

 Director of R&D for the Corps of Engineers. I am also the Execu- 



