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tribes and States served on to advise us, we set up economic review 

 committees, again the same groups. 



I think the difficulty though, and someone has raised this, has 

 been when it comes down to section 7, which is by law a Federal 

 responsibility, and I have suggested ways of even opening that up 

 further. We need community involvement. 



Ms. FURSE. And the Federal relationship to the tribes will be 

 part of that. I would like to ask Dr. Bevan one question. The Fish 

 and Wildlife Service commissioned a Team to review the govern- 

 ment's salmon transportation program and they have just pub- 

 lished this report. It was released in May. 



The first sentence in the conclusion section reads, "As presently 

 conceived and implemented, transportation is unlikely to halt or 

 prevent continued decline and extirpation of listed species of salm- 

 on in the Snake River Basin." 



That seems to contradict your views on barging. Could you com- 

 ment on those apparent 



Mr. Bevan. Surely. First, I don't think it contradicts our views. 

 I think v/e agree with Dr. Mundy on that statement. We don't 

 think that there is any measure that will by itself recover these 

 salmon and we have to look at the wide range of different things 

 in the life history. 



I have very carefully read Dr. Mundy's report. I have to say that 

 I didn't really understand what that report was about until I got 

 back to the conclusion on page 120 and I don't think the executive 

 summary does a very good job of summarizing his conclusions. 



I think that he and I would agree that there is no major dif- 

 ference between what the Team is saying and I think Dr. Mundy, 

 and he should speak for himself, I think Dr. Mundy thinks that 

 this recovery plan is a legitimate platform for recovery. I don't 

 think there is any disagreement there. 



The fact that no one method is going to recover, I think we are 

 all in agreement on that. He does say back in his conclusions, I 

 think about page 120, that transportation will improve survival or 

 can be expected to improve survival, particularly during low water 

 years. 



Ms. FuRSE. Thank your- 



Ms. Unsoeld. The gentlewoman from Washington. All right, we 

 will go to Mr. Dicks. 



Mr. Dicks. Let me ask you this. Ted, you said that certain parts 

 of your plan have not been fully implemented. From a congres- 

 sional perspective and as someone who is visiting here today but 

 serves on the Appropriations Committee and what I would like to 

 hear is what are the two or three or four things that Congress 

 needs to do in terms of resources to deal with some of the critical 

 problems — I think not funding adequate science is clearly one. 



What are the other two or three things that we might be able 

 to do in the near term to help with this implementation of the com- 

 bined strategy here on the consensus items? 



Mr. BOTTIGER. Congressman Dicks, the Congress has done an ex- 

 cellent job of funding and I have to tell you that I am more than 

 pleased with the reaction and the ability to get your ear and other's 

 ears and get budget language in. 



