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vey at Interior I think can go a long way toward addressing that 

 problem. One thing we are trying to do in the executive office is 

 make sure that the programs are well integrated and complemen- 

 tary and not overlapping. That is the only issue we have been 

 watching, but we think the EMAP program is very important and 

 we would like to see it continue at EPA. 



Dr. Matanoski. From the standpoint of an epidemiologist as well 

 as the Chairman of the Science Advisory Board, this is one of the 

 important activities of EPA. Should it be based in EPA? It has to 

 be based in a group in which there is some interest in collecting 

 this data for the long term. I think EPA appropriately collects the 

 data as a regulatory agency as well as now a research arm to that 

 activity. 



If we didn't have that data, we would be in the same situation 

 we are right now, which is that local areas tend to collect their own 

 data for a single project. That is a very expensive proposition and 

 does not allow us any opportunity to be able to see something that 

 is not normally detected. We have to continue to keep up a surveil- 

 lance to try to find out if there is anything going on that we're not 

 looking for on a regular basis. That is a job which has to be done 

 constantly by the agency, which most likely would be the agency 

 which will be regulating in the future because they know the ques- 

 tions to be asked of that data. 



Senator Reid. Thank you very much. We appreciate each of your 

 being here. 



Dr. Matanoski, earlier today the chairman of the full committee, 

 Senator Baucus, and Senator Lieberman were here. They are not 

 here now because of the press of other matters; however, their 

 staffs and the staffs of other members of this committee are here. 

 Your testimony is very important to us in order to develop a bill 

 that we can put on the Senate floor. 



Thank you all very much for being here. 



Senator Reid. Our next panel will consist of Dr. Allan Ford, Di- 

 rector, Gulf Coast Hazardous Substance Research Center, Lamar 

 University; Dr. William Glaze, Professor and Chairman, Depart- 

 ment of Environmental Sciences and Engineering, University of 

 North Carolina, Chapel Hill; and Mr. Ralph DeGennaro, Director 

 of Appropriations Projects, Friends of the Earth. 



Please, be seated. 



We will first hear from Dr. Ford of Lamar University. As indi- 

 cated earlier, if you could hold your testimony to around 5 minutes, 

 we would appreciate it. We have a series of questions we would like 

 to ask each of you. 



Dr. Ford? 



STATEMENT OF ALLAN FORD, DIRECTOR, GULF COAST HAZ- 

 ARDOUS SUBSTANCE RESEARCH CENTER, LAMAR UND7ER- 

 SITY 



Dr. FORD. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for inviting me 

 here today. 



While I am here as a private individual, it is important to note 

 that I am a research professor at Lamar University and operate a 

 research program of eight gulf coast universities particularly fund- 

 ed by EPA as well as the State of Texas and private industry. I 



