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pollution prevention program for an American Chemical Society 

 meeting. In Washington, D.C. next month we will have probably 

 the largest pollution prevention designed for the environment type 

 of scientific conference in the world. 



It is not possible for a research director from Monsanto Company 

 to go over and sit down in DuPont's laboratories. That just doesn't 

 happen. When you go out and deal with academia, you are dealing 

 with a fairly narrow expertise. This is very valuable, but it is a 

 very narrow expertise. So from a research director's viewpoint, 

 being able to go to an EPA laboratory, which is inherently multi- 

 disciplinary, and sit down and talk with a lot of different kinds of 

 people is very, very valuable. Since this crosses a number of indus- 

 trial firms, it is very valuable to us. 



To summarize very quickly, I think that somehow or another we 

 are going to have to come to a research-led Environmental Protec- 

 tion Agency which supports an industry which is both environ- 

 mentally benign and can compete in the world marketplace. In a 

 world marketplace, if we can invent technologies that do not pol- 

 lute, I think there is enough interest among world societies to 

 make our products more valuable than German products, Brazilian 

 products, or whatever. The key to it is a good, healthy R&D oper- 

 ation. 



With that, I will yield to my colleagues. 



Senator REID. Dr. Glaze? 



STATEMENT OF WILLIAM H. GLAZE, PROFESSOR, SCHOOL OF 

 PUBLIC HEALTH, UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA, 

 CHAPEL HILL, AND CHAIRMAN, DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRON- 

 MENTAL SCIENCES AND ENGINEERING 



Dr. Glaze. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I appreciate the opportunity to be here today. As you said before, 

 I am a professor at the School of Public Health at the University 

 of North Carolina and Chair of the Department of Environmental 

 Sciences and Engineering, which I might mention is soon to cele- 

 brate its 75th anniversary as one of the oldest and most com- 

 prehensive programs of its type in the country. 



May I mention also that I am editor of Environmental Science 

 and Technology, which is the premier publication in that field, 

 sponsored by the American Chemical Society but an independent 

 research publication. I am also a former member of the Science Ad- 

 visory Board of EPA, the executive committee as well as the chair 

 of the Drinking Water Committee. 



Senator Reid. What is your academic background? 



Dr. Glaze. I am a chemist. My degrees are from the University 

 of Wisconsin. 



I would like to say, Mr. Chairman, that in my opinion this coun- 

 try does not have the institutionalized environmental research ap- 

 paratus that it needs to adequately protect public health, preserve 

 the environment, and encourage sustainable economic develop- 

 ment. As others have said before, the United States environmental 

 R&D apparatus is fragmented, uncoordinated, and poorly struc- 

 tured to deal with complex, interdisciplinary research. 



I and my colleagues are particularly concerned that there is so 

 little support for exploratory or basic research in the environmental 



