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area where we know they want it for technology in another area 

 that we know we want?" 



Within just the Department of Energy, to do this is exceedingly 

 difficult, because not the rest of the world is organized the way we 

 are. Parts of what we want may be in their equivalent of NASA, or 

 their equivalent of the Commerce Department, and what they want 

 may be in our organization or may be in NSF. 



If one tries to do this across the Government, with the hope of if 

 you do something for me in the Space Station, I will do something 

 for you with the Superconducting Super Collider, it sounds wonder- 

 ful, but I really think, in practice, it is next to impossible, because 

 you are dealing with different departments, different ministries, 

 and you essentially have to go up to the head of government to find 

 people who have that common perspective. We were unable to do it 

 very effectively just dealing with energy issues within the Depart- 

 ment of Energy. 



Mr. FuQUA. I might say that we have, as a committee, been 

 trying to streamline the patent policy so that there is somewhat 

 uniformity in that, and we have not succeeded, either. But we are 

 still working on it. 



Thank you very much. Dr. Jaffe, for being with us this morning. 



Mr. Jaffe. My pleasure, sir. 



Mr. FuQUA. It has been very helpful to us, and we thank you 

 very much for taking your time. We apologize for keeping you so 

 late. 



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