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Mr. FuQUA. Our next witness is Mr. Charles Horner, Deputy As- 

 sistant Secretary for Oceans and International Environmental and 

 Scientific Affairs for the Department of State, and he will provide 

 us with an overview of the State Department's role in internation- 

 al science activities. 



Welcome, Mr. Horner, and we would be pleased to hear from 

 you. 



[A biographical sketch of Mr. Horner follows:] 



Charles Horner 



Charles Horner has been Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Science and 

 Technology since October 1981. Previously, he had been adjunct professor and re- 

 search associate of the Landegger Program in International Business Diplomacy in 

 Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. He was also a member of the 

 U.S. Delegation to the United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea. His earlier 

 service in Government had been in the U.S. Senate, where he was a member of the 

 professional staff of the Subcommittee on National Security and International Oper- 

 ations and, later, senior legislative assistant in the office of Senator Daniel P. Moy- 

 nihan. 



Horner is a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and did postgraduate 

 work at the University of Chicago. He also studied overseas in Taiwan and Japan. 



Horner is married and has two children. 



STATEMENT OF CHARLES HORNER, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRE- 

 TARY OF STATE FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY; ACCOMPA- 

 NIED BY DR. JACK BLANCHARD, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF COOP- 

 ERATIVE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS, U.S. DEPART- 

 MENT OF STATE, WASHINGTON, DC 



Mr. Horner. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 



I would first like to say that I am accompanied this morning by 

 Dr. Jack Blanchard, who is the Director of the State Department's 

 Office of Cooperative Science and Technology Projects. 



I am pleased to appear before the task force in order to offer the 

 perspective of the Department of State on international coopera- 

 tion in science and technology. 



Science is certainly an international undertaking, and as much 

 as the advancement of science in our own country contributes to 

 progress throughout the world, there are times when advances in 

 other countries, or advances made in conjunction with other coun- 

 tries, can benefit us here at home. 



In particular, we have learned in recent years that international 

 cost-sharing for so-called big science can mesh with ongoing domes- 

 tic activities and enhance our own future prospects. Basic research 

 has become an expensive activity, and nations are no longer well 

 advised to duplicate each other's facilities. Instead, there has 

 grown up a kind of international division of labor and a strong im- 

 pulse toward greater cooperation. 



Yet any successful international endeavor on our part must 

 begin with strong domestic capabilities. It is our own strength in 

 science, technology, and engineering which establishes America's 

 bargaining position in international scientific affairs. Our strength 

 in these areas rests on more than Federal activities alone; in our 

 society, much of our capability originates in universities and in pri- 

 vate enterprises. 



We have developed, over the years, a way of managing federally 

 funded international science and technology activities. It begins in 



