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number falls off based on their own political and economic circum- 

 stances. But we have had tens of thousands of scientists and engi- 

 neers training in this country, some of whom have stayed here and 

 some of whom have gone back. 



We have established over the years venerable institutions over- 

 seas for the training of doctors and engineers and others. 



The question of how one identifies the potential talent, especially 

 in so-called developing countries, and then reaches it and organizes 

 it in such a way that people are trained and educated and then fi- 

 nally brought back to their own countries and then put to some 

 useful purpose, it is extremely difficult. 



Mr. Packard. I can appreciate the difficulty. I hope we don't lose 

 sight of our overall objective, and that is to assist countries to de- 

 velop and to become self-supporting. Obviously, our country and a 

 few other developed nations are graphic and very obvious models of 

 what a good scientifically oriented and development oriented type 

 of process can do for countries. 



The best thing that can happen to our developing countries is for 

 them to learn from the models of those countries that have really 

 successfully implemented, and received benefit from, their techni- 

 cal research in terms of actual economy, our economy and many 

 others concerned. 



That is all I have to say. 



Mr. FuQUA. Mr. Stallings. 



Mr. Stallings. No questions, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. FuQUA. Mr. Horner, thank you very much, and Dr. Blan- 

 chard, we appreciate your being here with us this morning. 



[Answers to questions asked of Mr. Horner follow:] 



