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international activities. Apparently you still feel that that would 

 be the appropriate way to go even though, politically, it probably is 

 not possible. 



Dr. Skolnikoff. Yes. 



Mr. Packard. Now, would that agency, in your judgment, not 

 only supervise and take precedence over international relation- 

 ships in cooperative efforts but also over mission agencies and mis- 

 sion efforts in terms of the same scientific areas? 



Dr. Skolnikoff. No. The bulk of whatever happens has to reside 

 in the mission agencies. Not only would it be impossible to take it 

 out, but it would be foolish to do so. That is where the expertise 

 exists. 



That agency that was proposed some years ago actually had a 

 broader function that was mentioned here. A good part of it was 

 related to the development concerns, such as of dealing with devel- 

 oping countries in science and technology, and in fact the goal is 

 almost the opposite of the way you phrased the question; and that 

 is to say, we are so badly or inadequately utilizing the scientific 

 and technical resources of mission agencies and of the private 

 sector in the United States, that one purpose of that agency was to 

 try to better use those resources, rather than to take them over. 



It was never intended to be a large agency; it was very much 

 more intended to be a smaller agency working with existing exper- 

 tise, able to do this kind of cross-agency ranking, and in fact it was 

 that particular point that interested OMB at the time, and that 

 was that it might be possible — they saw it as a way of possibly allo- 

 cating funds for international projects where there was a genuine 

 discipline; where there was an agency that could exercise some 

 genuine discipline in the process. 



Mr. Packard [as acting chairman]. I appreciate your interesting 

 testimony. Thank you very much. 



It appears that the chairman has been called elsewhere, and so I 

 believe, if there are no further remarks, that concludes our task 

 force hearing this morning. We will now recess until next Tuesday, 

 June 25. 



We want to thank you. Dr. Skolnikoff, and all others who have 

 testified this morning. 



Dr. Skolnikoff. Thank you, Mr. Packard. 



[Answers to questions asked of Dr. Skolnikoff follow:] 



