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a tragedy if, through failure to cooperate, governments continue to 

 divide up the oceans among themselves. 



Mr. Manton. Thank you. 



Mr. Young. 



Mr. Young. When do you expect to conclude the international 

 negotiations, Mr. Colson? 



Mr. Colson. Well, I have set as a personal target to have some- 

 thing before this Congress in 1994 that you can act upon so that we 

 will have a deal struck and agreed to before the voluntary suspen- 

 sion ends, and it will govern us in the post-1994 period. We will 

 meet in Korea in two weeks for another round. 



I would like to indicate — I would not want to hold out a great 

 deal of hope that we are going to get much in Seoul. This has been 

 a long, tedious process. I think there will be some more head 

 knocking. It might take two or three more rounds to get to the end 

 of the road. I certainly hope by the spring of next year it will be 

 done. 



Mr. Young. Would the passage of H.Con.Res. 135 assist you in 

 the negotiation process? 



Mr. Colson. Definitely, sir. Before you cafine in I mentioned that 

 I am hopeful that your initiative and the initiatives that some 

 others have taken, the statement we have from the Vancouver 

 Summit by Presidents Clinton and Yeltsin, all make it clear that 

 this issue is important to these countries. It is very critical to get- 

 ting this job done. 



Mr. Young. I am encouraged by those words. I want to believe 

 very strongly that the Donut Hole should be totally closed as an 

 area which can keep the fisheries healthy in that area and all the 

 outlying areas. I know some people may disagree with me about 

 that. 



This is an opportunity, I think, that goes far beyond what is even 

 proposed in this resolution. So I am very encouraged. 



Matt, it was awful hard for you to say what you did, but it is 

 hard for me to hear it. I say that in good humor. I watched Robert 

 roll his eyes there. I hope he was born over. 



I want to thank the panel. Most all of you support this legisla- 

 tion. I hope this comes to pass. This is very important to the State 

 of Alaska and the State of Washington, and all the species of 

 marine mammals that are directly affected. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Manton. The Chair recognizes the gentlelady from Washing- 

 ton. 



Mrs. Unsoeld. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am pleased with the 

 spirit of "let's do it" that exists here today. 



First, let me ask Mr. Morgan, was there a response you wanted 

 to make a couple of seconds ago? Let me give you that opportunity 

 before I jump into my issue. 



Mr. Morgan. Thank you very much. I just wanted to make it 

 clear to Representative Young that I totally support his position, 

 and I totally agree that the international zone and the Donut Hole 

 should be closed forever. 



Mr. Young. Thank you. Bob. You are all right. 



Mrs. Unsoeld. Mr. Matlock, you said in your written statement 

 that the United States is advancing the general argument that 



