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Ms. Beattie. It would be defined by rule that it would be quite 

 a large — quite a large motorized vessel. 



Mr. Studds. The gentleman's time has expired. Ms. Beattie 



Mr. Young. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to rule out 

 this oosick later on to find out why you feel this can't be sold, it 

 has been manufactured, it has been proven, and by the way, you 

 can use it as a weapon. 



Mr. Studds. Did I violate the law when one of your cagey con- 

 stituents sold me one of those things the last time I was there? 



Mr. Young. That is what they want to say is violating the law. 

 And my point is they killed 3,000 walruses at the maximum for 

 subsistence purposes. And to have this proposed by an agency is 

 deplorable to me. 



Mr. Studds. Ms. Beattie, you may not believe this but this is one 

 of his relatively mellow days. 



Ms. Beattie. Fortunately, it is one of mine too. 



Mr. Studds. It is just as well. 



Mr. Young. Now, if we want to get in a real discussion young 

 lady, we will. And if you want to start this, we will. You just re- 

 member where I am and where you are. 



Mr. Studds. The usick will go. Oosick, whatever it is. Actually 

 it looks more like an oosick in your hands. The gentleman from 

 California is next. 



Mr. Cunningham. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I would like 

 to say to Mr. Pungowiyi, although you read your words I know they 

 came from your heart, and I understand the emotion. And in clar- 

 ity of time I would like to submit most of mine for the record, Mr. 

 Chairman. 



[Statement of Mr. Cunningham follows:] 



Statement of Hon. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a U.S. Representative from 



California 



I would like to thank Chairman Studds for holding this important hearing on the 

 reauthorization of the Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA). 



Since the MMPA was enacted in 1972, it has served to protect various marine 

 mammal populations in the wild from various human threats. The Act also safe- 

 guards marine mammals by managing human activities affecting them and their 

 natural habitat. 



Through the years, however, much confusion has developed over what role each 

 agency should play. Most recently, this confusion was demonstrated in October 

 when the National Marine Fisheries Service issued their proposed permit regula- 

 tions. I believe that in the future this ambiguity will certainly lead to more conflict- 

 ing standards and law suits. 



It is my understanding that the intent of the MMPA was to protect marine mam- 

 mals that lived in the wild, and that the National Marine Fisheries Service and the 

 U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service are responsible for its enforcement. It was also my 

 understanding that the Animal Welfare Act, enforced by the Department of Agri- 

 culture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, regulates the care and main- 

 tenance of marine mammals in zoological facilities. 



Mr. Chairman, as we discuss the issue of public display, it is imperative that we 

 make this less of a "regulatory mess". As a Member from San Diego, I am proud 

 to have both Sea World and the San Diego Zoo close to me, and the San Diego Wild 

 Animal Park in my district. 



This Committee should note the important role played by zoos and aquariums. 

 These zoological institutions have spent $20 million on research over the past 5 

 years alone. This research, performed at no expense to the Federal Government, 

 benefits marine mammals in the wild and in captivity. These same institutions have 

 spent over $5 million since 1987 rescuing and rehabilitating stranded marine mam- 

 mals — again at no cost to the Federal Government. 



