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And I am interested, and I know I am not looking for a cruise, 

 but I would like very much when they come into Port Everglades 

 to go on board and to see exactly what are they left with, if I could, 

 and see what they came with, how they handled' it, and I think I 

 would be a bit surprised particularly if I took the day cruise indus- 

 try — I don't think they generate as much garbage as quickly as 

 does the overall cruise. 



And I guess what I am saying, Mr. Chairman, is I am concerned 

 about the cruise line industry doing its job with reference to the 

 environment, but I am also concerned about us as citizens doing 

 our jobs in other areas. For example, no cruise ship goes down the 

 intracoastal waterway in Ft. Lauderdale, and be damned if it isn't 

 just as garbage dumped as the shoreline is, and there are fishing 

 vessels, recreational vessels, all sorts of people that have bad 

 habits, and that has come to haunt us, and it haunts the cruise line 

 industry in a more impacted way because of the significant number 

 of people that they put on board at a given time. 



I just believe that we can do more, and I would like to ask you, 

 and I have but one question, and after my rambling, Mr. Chair- 

 man, I would like to ask you, Mr. Estes, your opinion as to the ade- 

 quacy of port reception facilities for ship-generated garbage. Are 

 we on line with that? Are we close in terms of the geographical 

 areas that are doing something about it? And specifically for me, 

 what do they do in Port Everglades and in Palm Beach and in 

 Miami because that is where my great interest lies in addition to 

 around the world? 



Mr. Estes. I am sure the Admiral could comment too, but from 

 our vantage point, the port reception facilities in south Florida are 

 quite adequate. There has been a great improvement in the past 

 four and a half years that MARPOL Annex V has been in effect. 

 We do have and from time to time have some difficulties in the 

 wider Caribbean area, and some of that is due to the fact that some 

 of the countries there, the island nations, have not signed Annex 

 V. I have listed those countries in my statement, and I think it 

 would be very helpful whatever our government can do to encour- 

 age signing by those countries. 



But by and large, Congressman Hastings, there has been an im- 

 provement. This is now not with respect to APHIS garbage. 

 APHIS^regulated garbage requires special treatment, and that has 

 to be burned. And in Miami, that presents no problem. That is 

 done there, and in other ports of the country it does present a little 

 bit of a problem because it has to be trucked, and it gets to be quite 

 costly, but it is done. But with the exception of the regulated gar- 

 bage, I think the port reception facilities clearly in your area are 

 adequate. 



Mr. Hastings. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not quite ready 

 yet to trash the cruise line industry. I am going to wait a little 

 while. 



Mr. Tauzin. Mr. Hochbrueckner for questions. 



Mr. Hochbrueckner. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Henn, 

 on page two of your testimony you state, "The Coast Guard active- 

 ly enforces the laws through our vessel-boarding program, observa- 

 tion of vessel operations, and our follow-up of reports from private 



