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both trained in medicine. I think that is helpful because what we 

 are trying to prevent is medical problems with the dissemination 

 of all these chemicals. 



How might this that we have just spoken about work with this 

 master testing list? 



Dr. Goldman? 



Dr. Goldman. I think there are a number of ways that could 

 work. One is through the use of the master testing list — it could 

 be specified in the statute that the master testing list would in- 

 clude high-volume chemicals. It could be specified that the master 

 testing list include chemicals meeting the other criteria that we 

 discussed earlier. I think it would also be useful to establish some 

 sort of a minimum screening level amount of data that would be 

 required for the chemicals on the master testing list. 



For example, there is an ongoing program, the SIDS program 

 mentioned earlier. We could have a mandatory counterpart to this 

 voluntary program that we are now conducting. Right now, the Eu- 

 ropean Union is putting in place some mandatory minimum data 

 requirements for the SIDS chemicals. 



It would also be possible to put in place some requirements that 

 add new chemicals to the master testing list that a certain mini- 

 mum amount of data, testing, and exposure information be re- 

 quired as those new chemicals are added. So later if we identify 

 new groups of chemicals of concern — maybe science in the future 

 would bring forward new concerns, like the recent concern about 

 environmental hormones — ^then we could incorporate those new 

 chemicals onto the master testing list and have a basic set of data 

 to use to prioritize those chemicals. 



Senator Reid. The bells just went off and we have a vote. I know 

 that Mr. Dear and Dr. Rosenstock have an important meeting they 

 must attend, so I am going to go directly to some questions of them 

 that I want to ask before we terminate this part of the hearing. 



Mr. Dear, some States are authorized to administer OSHA re- 

 quirements, right? 



Mr. Dear. Yes. 



Senator Reid. Do you know how many States run their own 

 OSHA programs? 



Mr. Dear. It is 23 States and 2 Territories, Mr. Chairman. 



Senator Reid. And how do you compare the programs that are 

 run by the States to those run by the Federal Government as far 

 as effectiveness? 



Mr. Dear. They vary. Some are true laboratories of innovation 

 in the sense that they are ahead of the Federal OSHA- programs 

 in the approaches they are taking to improving workplace safety 

 and health. Some have some significant resources challenges. 



Senator Reid. The State of Washington, from where you came, 

 is a State that runs its own program. Is that right? 



Mr. Dear. Yes, sir. 



Senator Reid. Aren't there situations there where the State is 

 not providing adequate protection for workers and the Federal 

 OSHA has had to come in and conduct inspections? 



Mr. Dear. No. I disagree with that characterization. 



There are certain types of hazards where a combined approach 

 was helpful. I am thinking of a particular incident that involved an 



