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will be a very high one as far as the Coast and Geodetic Survey 

 is concerned. 



Dr. Eevelle. I am sure this is the case, but I would like to point 

 out again what I said in my previous statement that what really 

 needs to be done is to have a long-range i)lan and a long-range plan 

 is the easiest kind of plan to coordinate. It is by far the most eco- 

 nomical and it is by far the most eftective in doing the overall job 

 that needs to be done. 



You have to really think not only of the needs of defense this year 

 and nest year but the defense needs that we will have 10 or 15 years 

 from now. 



This is the kind of a surveying job which the Coast Survey is par- 

 ticularly adept at doing, jobs which are good not just for the imme- 

 diate needs but for the continuing needs of the comitry. 



Mr. Pelly. Thank you. 



Mr. DiNGELL (presiding) . Mr. Oliver ? 



Mr. Oliver. Mr. Chairman, I have not too many questions to ask 

 Dr. Revelle. I would like to say, however, that, associating myself 

 with the remarks which have been made by Congressman Miller and 

 Congressman Pelly, it has been not only a real pleasure but a privi- 

 lege to have been on this committee for these past several months 

 primarily because of the information which it has been possible to 

 have absorbed during this time which is due in no large part, may 

 I say, to such dedicated people as yourself, Doctor, and those others 

 on the committee of scientists who ha^-e not only made this the most 

 pleasant mission I have had on this committee but also the sessions 

 made possible because of membership have been most satisfying 

 indeed. 



I feel that the subject matter of this hearing is of tremendous 

 importance. I realize that the point about overlapping jurisdiction 

 and activities, and so forth, is a rather potent one so far as many 

 people in our country are concerned and also in our Government. 



I would like to ask you this question in that connection. Dr. 

 Revelle. If the civilian purpose, which you have referred to, to result 

 from a continuity of surveying the ocean bottom is to be carried out 

 on a systematic and continuing basis, then it obviously requires people 

 who are specializing perhaps as a career in this type of work. Is that 

 your feeling ? 



Dr. Revelle. That is very strongly my feeling ; yes. 



Mr. Oliver. On the other hand, if naval commissioned personnel 

 are doing this work through the Hydrographic Office of the Navy, 

 does it not follow, then, that the general efficiency and general ability 

 of naval personnel assigned to this dut}^ is apt to be diluted by reason 

 of the fact tliat they would have to stay on this particular assiginnent 

 for a longer period of years than they ordinarily would in the rotating 

 system that is now carried out so far as naval commissioned person- 

 nel, of course ? 



Dr. Revelle. You understand, of course, sir, and I am sure Cap- 

 tain Munson would explain to you, that there are people in the Navy 

 who are hydrographic specialists and spend their careers on naval 

 ships; but I was saying tliat the bosses, the men who run the show 

 and plan the programs, are officers who necessarily have a wide variety 

 of jobs and a wide variety of responsibilities and interests, whereas 



