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Dr. Revelle. I do not really know abont this, Congressman Oliver. 

 As you laiow, until recently many soundings have been classified and 

 I am not sure whether the Navy has given the soundings to the Coast 

 Survey or not. 



Mr. Olpver. "VVliat I am trying to get at is, if the fishermen in the 

 New England area, for example, wanted the data with reference to 

 the banks or some other area up in the waters of that geographical 

 area, any Navy data would be available for civilian purposes? 



Dr. IvEVELLE. I am sure it would be available as long as it is not 

 classified. 



Mr. Olh^r. That is all I have, Mr. Chairman. Thanlv you. 



Mr. Miller (presiding). Mr. Curtin? 



Mr. CuRTiN. Doctor, is it at all possible for you to estimate the 

 increased cost of this expanded program ? What would be the extra 

 cost annually to the Government? 



Dr. Revelle. Of the Coast Survey ? 



Mr. CuRTiN. If this bill were enacted which would provide for the 

 increased activities of the Coast and Geodetic Survey, would j^ou tell 

 me exactly what it would cost the Government ? 



Dr. Revelle. It depends on what Congi-ess wants the Coast Survey 

 to do. 



Mr. CuRTiN". Is it possible to give an estimate of the cost of this 

 bill? 



Dr. Revelle. The best way to put it is that if the Survey carried out 

 the recommendations made by the National Research Council Com- 

 mittee on Oceanography, I can give you the figures. Of course, that 

 depends on whether the Congress thinks this is worth doing. We 

 recommended that the Coast Survey should build 10 new survey ships 

 within the next 10 years, we estimate that this would cost about $36 

 million over the next 10 years; and that the operating costs would 

 be $14 million over the next 10 years. 



Mr. CuRTiN. Would that operating cost increase as they got more 

 ships ? 



Dr. Revelle. Yes; that is right. By 1970 costs above the present 

 level of expenditures in our recommendation would be $2.3 million 

 for ship operatoi's; capital costs for shore facilities for the increased 

 activity during the next 10 years would be about $4 million; and the 

 operating costs of the shore facilities during the next 10 years would 

 total about $24 million above the present level of expenditures. It 

 comes out to about $3,800,000 a year and capital costs, costs for build- 

 ing ships and shore facilities, $5 million a year, so that the total cost 

 to the Government, if the entire program recommended by the Acad- 

 emy for the Coast Siu'vey were carried out would be about $8 million 

 a year. 



I think the Coast Survey does not plan such an extensive program. 



Mr. CuRTiN. But that would be your recommendation ? 



Dr. Revelle. What we recommended would be the total that should 

 be done by the Coast Survey. 



We recommended a similar expenditure by the Navy. 



Mr. CuRTiN. Thank you. 



That is all, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Dineell ? 



