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train on a seasonal basis to do specific joibs for which they should be 

 ■compensated something extra. 



This is to pay a man for higher skills which he develops on a short- 

 time basis. 



Mr. Drewry. That is all. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Bauer? 



Mr. Bauer. I have just one question, Admiral Karo. 



Is it not correct that the important thing in detennining the depth 

 ■of the ocean and the bathymetry at any point is the location of the 

 ship a that particular time ? 



Admiral Ivaro. That is correct. If you are going to have an ac- 

 curate bathymetric map and make it meaningful you have to know 

 where you are as well as how deep the water is. 



Mr. Bauer. Am I also correct in assuming that if you were going 

 from a position A on the surface of the earth to position B, and would 

 traverse an unknown, uncharted, unexplored area of the sea, that it 

 would not make any difference between a great circle or a rhumb 

 line for the course you took ? 



Admiral Karo. If you are after information, no. 



Mr. Bauer. Thank you, sir. 



Admiral Ivz\ro. But if you are interested in economy of operation, 

 yes. 



Mr. Bauer. Wliich would be the cheapest ? 



Admiral Karo. Naturally, if you are on a scientific investigation, 

 YOU would run a systematic series of lines so that they would have 

 definite relation to each other. 



If you are on a rhumb line, that is strictly the shortest distance 

 between two ports, and I do not believe it has any bearing on the full 

 development of the scientific information that you are trying to get. 



Mr. Bauer. You mean a great circle, not a rhumb line ? 



Admiral Karo. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Miller. Thank you veiy much, Admiral. 



Admiral Karo. Thank you, sir. 



Mr. Grubb. My only comments had to do with the payment of 

 payments in the Arctic region outside the Classification Act. 



If you have any other questions, I will be glad to answer. 



Mr. jVIiller. Thank you very much. 



Capt. H. G. Munson, hydrographer of the Navy. 



Captain, we welcome you. We are always happy to see you. 



STATEMENT OF HENRY G. MUNSON, CAPTAIN, TSN, HYDROG- 

 RAPHER OF THE NAVY AND HYDROGRAPHER IN COMMAND 

 OF THE U.S. NAVY HYDROGRAPHIC OFFICE IN OCEANOGRAPHY 



Captain Munson. Mr. Chairman, I am very appreciative of the op- 

 portunity to appear before you for the purpose of presenting the posi- 

 tion of the Department of Defense relative to the enactment of H.R. 

 8611, to remove geographical limitations on activities of the Coast and 

 Geodetic Survey. 



The Department of Defense regrets that it does not favor enactment 

 of H.R. 8611 in its present form, but does believe that a satisfactory 

 compromise wording can be arrived at which will insure the objectives 

 of the bill as originally worded and yet meet the views of the Depart- 

 ment of Defense and that such a compromise is necessary. 



