24 OCEANOGRAPHY 



Mr. Bauer. How many meeting have you had of the Interagency 

 Committee since it has been formed ? 



Mr. Wakelin. Of the order of a half a dozen. 



Mr. Bauer. Over a period of what time ? 



Mr. Wakeliist. Well, this comits the meetings we had as an ad hoc 

 committee to review the National Academy of Sciences' report and 

 the now constituted Interagency Committee on Oceanography of the 

 Federal Council. 



Mr. Bauer. I think the committee would like to know why there has 

 been the delay in getting the show on the road if ocean surveys are 

 supremely important, and we have testimony to that eifect from 

 everyone who has appeared. 



Is there any technical holdup ? Is it a fiscal holdup ? 



Mr. Wakelin". The function that the ICO is now undertakmg 

 through the separate members is to construct the 1962 budget and 

 program which we will review the first week in June for our recom- 

 mendations to the various agencies. 



Mr. Bauer. Well, that brings up another point which I am glad 

 you mentioned, sir. That is, the budget cycle of 1962 is fairly well 

 firmed up by departments as of right now, is it not ? 



Mr. Wakelin. This is not true in the Navy, sir. 



We are just starting to review the various budgets that have been 

 presented by bureaus of the Navy Department in an integrated form. 



This will go on probably through September. 



Mr. Bauer. Then this Interagency Committee would be another 

 review group to balance out. 



Mr. Wakelin. In the specific field of oceanography throughout 

 the various agencies, including the Navy, concerned with oceanog- 

 raphy. 



]Vir. Bauer. Could you talk to the amount of moneys tliat were 

 spent in fiscal 1961, appropriated at the President's request, and what 

 your thinking was ? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes. The program in oceanography in the Presi- 

 dent's budget, which was presented to Congress through the various 

 agencies, totaled $55.7 million for fiscal year 1961. 



jNIr. Bauer. That includes strictly militarily motivated ? 



Mr. Wakelin. It concerns no military researcli and no military 

 surveys. 



Mr. Bauer. $55.7 million for evei-ything ^\ith the exclusion of mili- 

 tary motivation. 



How much was the military part ? 



Mr. Wakelin. $24 million, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. $24 million for military motivated research and devel- 

 opment and $55.7 million for non-military-motivated research; is that 

 correct ? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. I noticed that the recommendations of the NASCO 

 Committee, w^hich you have testified to before another committee, 

 show comparative totals of $22.8 million; the recommendations of the 

 Interdepartmental Coordinating Committee $120.2 million and the 

 President's budget submission, $55.7 million. 



Why was the reduction made in the budget ? 



