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Admiral Hayward. Well, the statutoiy responsibilities you are 

 referring to are the geology, the seismic, and the magnetic. 



Mr, Lennon. Yes. Would that not be included in an overall pic- 

 ture of a data center at the Naval Hydrographic Office. 



Admiral Hayward. I am no lawyer, but most of that would relate 

 really to land measurements. We also understand the law gives the 

 Navy basic responsibility for oceanography. For instance the mag- 

 netic fields and measurements in the far reaches of the ocean are all 

 done by the Navy. 



Mr. Lennon. That is statutory, likewise ? 



Admiral Hayward. That is what I believe ; yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. I do not know. 



Admiral ITay^v.\rd. As I say, I am net a lawyer. 



Mr. Lennon. Thank you. Admiral. 



Mr. Miller. Mi: Curtin? 



Mr. CuRTiN. I have a question. 



Admiral, I presume that there is some distinction between the 

 publicity given the findings of, for example, the U.S. Coast and 

 Geodetic Survey as against those made by the military, is there not? 

 Youi-s are more classified than those made by the purely civilian 

 agencies. 



Admiral PlAmvARD. Well, some of them are, not all of them. You 

 can buy a card and get a lot of information. We have specific classi- 

 fied projects, though, where we want to find out about a certain place 

 or area for specific information and this may be a classified project, 

 yes. 



Mr. CuRTiN. Then there would be no problems if these were all put 

 together in one committee ? 



Admiral Hay^vard. No, sir. There is no problem with this. 



Mr. Olr'er. I have just one question, Mr. Chiiirman. 



Admiral, I have been listening to your observations here with a 

 great deal of interest and I think I have gained the impression from 

 what 3'ou have said that you are satisfied with the progress which we 

 are making in our grogram of oceanography, is that correct ? 



Admiral Hayward. Well, let me put it this way. I am pleased. I 

 am never satisfied. If I ever get satisfied with a program my boss 

 will probal)ly fire me. But out of the balance of what we have had 

 to put together in the research and development area, I think oceanog- 

 raphy has made considerable progress and I am pleased with the 

 amount of progi'ess it has made. 



Mr. Oliver. I am sure that we all feel pleased about the progTess 

 you have made. However, I am wondering, in the face of this matter 

 that I referred to wlien I was discussing witli the Secretary, the 

 Soviet activity in this field, do you, Iniowing what you do about what 

 the Soviet program is, feel that time is runnijig in our favor in this 

 matter of oceanogTaphic research and your program relating thereto? 



Admiral Hayavard. Well, my personal feeling, and I refer it to 

 the whole research and development program, is that time is not in 

 our favor, that while we stand today in a very good position the 

 momentum of the Soviet program is such that if we do not do some- 

 thing and increase the rate, our position will change. The rate has 

 increased but I am sure my previous testimony has made quite plain 

 that I am not happy with it. 



