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Admiral Pierce. This is in relation to the broad bill on oceanog- 

 raphy ? 



Mr. CuRTiN, Yes. 



Admiral Pierce. No, sir; I do not. From my past experience 

 with the other agencies that are in this field I do not envision any 

 trouble. 



Mr. CuRTiN. Thank you, sir. 



That is all, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Oliver ? 



Mr. Oliver. I am sorry that I was late in getting here, but I had 

 another committee meeting that I had to attend, Mr. Chairman. 



I was interested, however, in the line of questioning which you 

 have already made and, to supplement that. Admiral, how much have 

 your appropriations actually l>een increased if they have been in- 

 creased for fiscal 1961 over 1960 for oceanographic purposes? 



Admiral Pierce. About $2 million in one item. 



Mr. Oliver. What does that represent in a percentage ? 



Admiral Pierce. About a ninth of the Bureau's total appro])riation. 



Mr. Oliver. I am not very sharp this morning on mathematics. 



Mr. Miller. That is about 11 percent. 



Mr. Oliver. Does this take care of your needs as you see them? 



Admiral Pierce. I also did not mention that we have authority to 

 build two class III ships. That is another $4.7 million certainly 

 in the field of oceanography. 



Mr. Oliver. This has been authorized and appropriations obtained 

 for it ? 



Admiral Pierce. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Oliver. This is for ship construction ? 



Admiral Pierce. This is ship construction in 1961. 



Mr. Oliver. Of course, I expect that you can see a vast need for 

 increase in your oceanographic activities. 



Admiral Pierce. In fact, we made a move last year. As the re- 

 sult of the same thing I am talking about, the interest of your com- 

 mittee and the interest of the National Academy, we actually put out 

 instructions to all of our survey ships to spend a certain amount of 

 their time on oceanography. Of course, there was less time spent on 

 charting work. 



Mr. Oliver. If you could write the ticket yourself so far as dollars 

 are concerned and talking from a reasonable standpoint, would you 

 be in a position to use constructively more funds in oceanographic 

 work? 



Admiral Pierce. We could use some more funds for instrumenta- 

 tion, yes, sir. 



Mr. Oliver. But not to any appreciable amount? 



Admiral Pierce. Not to an appreciable extent. 



Mr. Oliver. In other words, you are veiy happy about the whole 

 situation. 



Admiral Pierce. Yes, I am. I think the rate is orderly and I am 

 reasonably happy, but we could use more instrumentation. I still 

 repeat that. 



Mr. Oliver. Do you think we have enough technicians, for example, 

 in instrumentation work, to gather the data as rapidly as we should 

 to keep up with the challenges coming to us from perhaps Soviet 

 activities? 



