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plans for a survey type operation. "We do not liave proper vessels 

 and good enough equipment at the present time to carry these out in 

 the way that they should be carried out. 



Mr. Bauer. How about this question of taxonomy that comes up? 

 How do you feel about that ? 



Mr. McKernax. We are doing some taxonomy at the present time. 

 We have had two taxonomists here at the Smithsonian Institution, but 

 we also supply large amounts of taxonomic material to taxonomists 

 around the country. Here again, I come back to this matter of the 

 need for basic research and a support for basic research, and I w'ould 

 say that we need to expand tremendously the work done by museums 

 and universities along the taxonomic line. This has to be supported 

 somehow by Government, and our own taxonomic etforts probably 

 need expanding also. There has been some question as to whether or 

 not these should be funded through our particular Bureau or some- 

 where else, and I do not have any particular strong feelings in this 

 regard. We would be glad to do this, but on the other hand we 

 are not asking for a thankless job particularly. I think that there 

 has been some misunderstanding of our position in this regard. 



Mr. Bauer. When do you contemplate you will have a plan for 

 ocean surveys ? 



Mr. McKernan. Whenever we see ocean surveys are getting 

 underway we will be a part of a team. I would hope that it would 

 be composed of Government and non-Government scientists interested 

 in oceanography, and that we would participate in ascertaining what 

 biological observations would be made on these particular surveys, so 

 the answer to your question would be that we have to firm up just a 

 little bit more the wherewitlial to carry on broad ocean surveys before 

 we get into detailed planning on an oceanwide basis. 



Mr. Miller. Thank you, Mr. McKernan. We always know that 

 you are available. 



Our next witness will be Dr. Milner B. Schaefer of the Inter- 

 x\merican Tropical Tuna Commission, La Jolla, Calif. We are very 

 happy to welcome you here. 



STATEMENT OF DR. MILNER B. SCHAEFER, INTER-AMERICAN 

 TROPICAL TUNA COMMISSION, LA JOLLA, CALIF. 



Mr. Schaefer. Mr. Chairman, I want to speak this morning par- 

 ticularly about three of tlie subjects that are before your connnittee. 

 First I want to speak on the matter of surveys, second on the data 

 center, and third on the instrument calibration and test facility. I will 

 be glad to discuss any other topics that you would like. I have a 

 prepared statement here of about nine pages, and unless you wish me 

 to read it I can summarize it. 



Mr. Miller. Suppose that you summarize it. We will insert your 

 statement in the record at this point. 



(The statement referred to follows:) 



Statement of Dk. Mii.ner B. Schaefer 



I am MiliUT B. Sdiacfer, Director of Investigations of the Inter-American 

 Tropical Tnna Commission, and research associate of tlie Scripps Institution of 

 Oceanography of the University of California. I am a member of the Com- 

 mittee on Oceanography of the National Academy of Sciences-Natif)ual llesearch 

 Council. I am also a member of the NAS-NRC Committee ou Effects of Atomic 



