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Under that, which I consider an international designation, 

 Samoa and Samoans should be Native Americans; Hawaiians 

 should be Native Americans. 



I would like to thank all of you for sharing your wisdom with us. 

 I am happy, for one thing, that all of you agree that this is a good 

 first step. If you have any other suggestions that could be incor- 

 porated, now is the time to share it with us because once we get 

 back to Washington, we will begin the process of marking up the 

 measure. 



We have two hearings, as some of you may know. This is the 

 first hearing on the amendments to the Magnuson Act. The second 

 one is on the Native Hawaiian housing problems and the witnesses 

 are waiting here. So if I may, there are certain technical questions 

 I would like to submit to the Fisheries Council and if I may, to 

 your office in Samoa and to the Land and Natural Resources. It 

 may be a little too technical to be discussing at this stage. 



Mr. Keala and Mr. Poepoe, do you think at this moment, this 

 fits the bill? 



Mr. Keala. Yes, Senator Inouye; if I can add one thing that I 

 heard in the first panel. They identified the tuna fisheries as being 

 the most important resource to take care of. The offshore tuna fish- 

 ery is definitely dependent on what happens inshore. Mr. Poepoe 

 is a inshore fisherman; I'm an inshore fisherman, but we need to 

 take care of where that resource is getting its sustenance or that 

 part will not be able to grow and prosper. 



Senator Inouye. We asked you to testify because we were aware 

 that you would be speaking of fishponds because this measure, al- 

 though it appears to speak only of fishing boats and deep sea fish- 

 ing, is not limited to that type of fishing. It also involves conserva- 

 tion, also involves education, also involves propagation; and we 

 know that the fishponds will qualify as a community demonstration 

 project, so I wanted that to be made very clear to trie council when 

 this measure becomes law. So you get your fishponds together. 



It might be of interest to all of us here that there was a time 

 when I believe there were over 600 fishponds in the Hawaiian 

 chain, all flourishing, providing sustenance to Native Hawaiians 

 ranging from shrimps to lemu and fishes of all sizes. It must have 

 been an exciting time. We cannot hope to rebuild 600 fishponds 

 now but I am glad to see that successful attempts are now being 

 made on Kauai and Molokai to restore some of these fishponds, so 

 I look forward to that day. 



Gentlemen, I thank you very much. 



Senator Akaka, do you have any questions? 



Senator Akaka. Mr. Chairman, I thank you for the panel for the 

 hearing for these amendments. I am glad that we all recognize the 

 problem and we are looking for solutions. 



Again, I just want to urge all of you and all of us to connote that 

 we must be working together with the Council on this one and we 

 hope that there will be good cooperation, coordination and help 

 from all quarters, including the government sector. 



I wanted to mention to Mr. Keala and all of the panel, that I 

 have crafted an agriculture bill, the first agricultural bill in the 

 United States. I did offer it last year and was not able to get it 

 through and am doing it again this year. 



