26 EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMITTEE ON OCEANOGRAPHY 



Mr. Bauer. Now with respect to your budget operations, Mr. 

 Chairman, I notice in the budget breakdown furnished this committee 

 that your budgetary level of Coast Guard is at the same level as it 

 was in the previous fiscal year. Is that not correct? 



Mr. Wakelin. That is correct. 



Mr. Bauer. And yet this committee succeeded in having any limi- 

 tations on the Coast Guard's activities removed in the field of ocea- 

 nography. Is that correct? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir; and with our support and concurrence. 



Mr. Bauer. So they have the sum of $134,000 to conduct ocea- 

 nography in the advanced sense. 



Now I notice that they are going to put on telemetering buoys in 

 the North Atlantic in connection with their ice patrol. Is that in 

 the $134,000 that was the same as last year? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes; part of that is for the support of their buoy 

 effort. I might say in regard to the Treasury's interest and support 

 of our program, Mr. Bauer, that I have been holding detailed con- 

 ferences with Secretary James Reed, who has just come into the 

 Treasury Department, and whose responsibility will be, in part, that 

 of the Coast Guard. We are trying to work out a mechanism by 

 which they can assume more responsibility this year and next year 

 than is planned for in their budget, and we hope they can do this 

 administratively at present. I would certainly support an increased 

 budget level for the Coast Guard, in the use of their already existing 

 ships and in the supply to them of necessary instrumentation to get 

 oceanographic data over and beyond their normal patrol functions. 



Mr. Bauer. That is all I have, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Dingell. Mr. Drewry? 



Mr. Drewry. Perhaps this has already been covered, Mr. Sec- 

 retary, but this point is the thing that interested me. 



You engage in coordinated budget planning so as to recommend 

 the level of funding required for each fiscal year, and you do that 

 within the framework of the existing statutory commitments of the 

 various agencies. 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Drewry. The Coast Guard is an excellent example of the 

 problem. The Department of the Treasury has a great many ac- 

 tivities under its jurisdiction which are largely unrelated to the 

 functions of the broad general market functions of the Coast Guard. 



Now the economy thinking of the Secretary of Treasury concerned 

 with things such as Internal Revenue, customs matters, for instance, 

 might be such that the Coast Guard would not be given the break 

 it should have in order to carry out its expanded functions. 



How can you, how can the ICO, say to the Secretary of Treasury 

 that in the interests of the overall national oceanographic program 

 you need to do more to get greater funding level in your Coast Guard? 

 Do you do that, or do you tell the Secretary of the Treasury that in 

 order to get this show on the road, the Coast Guard is the logical, 

 already authorized agency to do a certain type of work, and yet, they 

 are not given enough money to carry out the work which is necessary 

 to keep the broad oceanographic program going? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir; I would like to answer that in two parts. 



First, I think it is a little bit early, in view of the fact that their 

 enlargement of charter is only a matter of about a year old. 



