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Mr. Bonner. Well, the full committee, at the time this subcom- 

 mittee was set up, felt that the subject of the oceans, and the seas, 

 was a subject under the jurisdiction of this committee. 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bonner. And therefore, we directed the establishment of that 

 subcommittee, and I am interested to know of its measurements, and 

 of whether it is just hearing reports from one agency and another 

 agency, and especially the long-range program that Mr. Lennon 

 asked you about. 



Now if you are just going from year to year, I don't think that you 

 in a vast subject of this kind, a field of this width, can make much 

 headway with just a program from year to year. This has been going 

 on 3 years, and you haven't got any scheduled program for continuity 

 of the work, and I don't know whether we have made much headway 

 here. 



Mr. Wakelin. We have a program proposed by the 



Mr. Bonner. Is some other committee of Congress having hearings 

 on this subject with a proposal similar to that which is pending before 

 this committee? 



Mr. Wakelin. No, sir; not that I know of, in the House. 



Mr. Bonner. Well, do you think there should be something of the 

 nature that this bill the committee has before it proposes? 



Mr. Wakelin. I think if one proposes this bill for enactment on 

 oceanography, that one also should address oneself to the other areas 

 of a similar kind which are concerned with national efforts. 



Mr. Bonner. Well now, you mean in some jurisdiction that this 

 committee doesn't have delegated to it? 



Mr. Wakelin. No, I am not referring to jurisdiction. I am 

 referring to fields of science that are becoming important in the whole 

 national effort, such as the field of nuclear physics. 



Mr. Bonner. Well, some of the things you refer to would be 

 under the jurisdiction of the Armed Services Committee, or Science 

 and Space, and so forth. 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, and of course, I testify before Mr. Mahon's 

 committee on that part of our appropriation in the Navy that con- 

 cerns oceanography, as well. 



Mr. Bonner. For economy, I would think that some directive 

 authority, or the coordination of the various funds spent in different 

 agencies that I have heard mentioned here today would promote this 

 subject, and be of value, not only to this Nation, but to the world. 

 Wouldn't it? 



Mr. Wakelin. I think for coordination, it would be. 



Mr. Bonner. That is just what I am asking. Should there be 

 some coordinative agency? 



Mr. Wakelin. We have authority now to coordinate and plan for 

 the national effort, and we don't have authority over the funds in 

 the various departments in the operating agencies. 



Mr. Bonner. Mr. Bauer, was that what you were trying to 

 develop? 



Mr. Bauer. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bonner. Conceivably, your effort was to develop this that I 

 am trying to bring up. 



Mr. Bauer. Yes, what I tried to bring out was that we have no 

 national program as such that is long range in nature, and that 



