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Mr. Wakelin. I am talking about a number of other scientific 

 fields. 



Mr. Bonner. And I understood you to say you hesitated because 

 it seemed that the policy of the Budget of the administration was 

 not favorable to the proposal that is pending before this committee, 

 or some such proposal. 



Mr. Wakelin. No, sir. 



Mr. Bonner. Did I misunderstand you in your testimony? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir, I do not hesitate on that point. 



Mr. Bonner. Would you think, then, to coordinate this, it might 

 be better to bring down the Director of the Bureau of the Budget? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes. 



Mr. Bonner. To get to the bottom of this matter. 



Mr. Wakelin. Right. 



Mr. Bonner. Have you had him down. 



Mr. Dingell. No, Mr. Chairman, we have not scheduled the Di- 

 rector of the Budget. It also appears that it might be wholesome 

 for the committee to consider having Dr. Wiesner, who is Scientific 

 Adviser to the President, to appear, too. 



Mr. Bonner. Well, of course, I haven't had the pleasure of meeting 

 many of the gentlemen that you have mentioned. Dr. Wiesner. 

 What authority has he? 



Mr. Dingell. He is the President's science adviser. 



Mr. Bonner. He is the head of the works. 



Mr. Dingell. As I read the signals that come up from downtown, 

 would it be fair to infer that Dr. Wiesner is perhaps the principal 

 formula tor of policy within the administration on this point? 



Mr. Wakelin. On science and technology. 



Mr. Bonner. Well, that covers the whole field. 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, it does, sir. 



Mr. Bonner. We are interested in this subject. 



Mr. Wakelin. But in this regard, Mr. Bonner, I might suggest 

 that there are other very important programs in the field of science 

 over which the Federal Council for Science and Technology has a 

 responsibility to coordinate the national effort on a planning and 

 programing basis. They include the Committee on Atmospheric 

 Sciences, which is concerned with the national program on meteorologi- 

 cal work, our program on oceanography, the program on nuclear 

 physics. 



Mr. Bonner. All this comes under Dr. Wiesner? 



Mr. Wakelin. That is all Dr. Wiesner's Council, yes. 



Mr. Bonner. Have you had Dr. Wiesner yet? 



Mr. Dingell. Not yet, Mr. Chairman, no. 



Mr. Wakelin. There is also a Committee on Water Resources, 

 and a very important Committee on Development of Materials. 



Now my only concern about oceanography is not that I feel that 

 legislation couldn't help us. I think in some respects it would. 

 I don't feel that we should look at oceanograplw as a special part of 

 science, without considering other programs in the national interest 

 that are planned on a national basis. 



Mr. Bonner. Well, then, do I understand you to mean, then, there 

 should be a Department of Scientific Development? 



Mr. Wakelin. No. 



