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Mr. Wakelin. But the National Academy considered programs for 

 each of the Government agencies and departments then working in 

 the field of oceanography. 



Mr. Dingell. Do you know of your own knowledge that the 

 National Academy coordinated with these other agencies in regard 

 to the formulation of their plans? 



Mr. Wakelin. I don't know the details of the level of coordination, 

 but I do know that they had to work closely with the Government 

 departments in order to prepare such a plan, and were requested to 

 by the Navy, the Atomic Energy Commission, the Science Foundation, 

 and Interior. 



Mr. Dingell. Would it be fair to infer, then, perhaps, that this 

 should be the plan, and we should simply adopt that? Wouldn't that 

 be in effect an admission that if the National Academy of Sciences 

 can do this, we ought to have them coordinate it, and to get rid of, 

 perhaps the ICO? 



Mr. Wakelin. This is a possibility. I don't believe, however, that 

 it is right to delegate to the Academy responsibilities for work per- 

 formed in Government departments under their own Government 

 funding. I think, as a coordinating mechanism, it has worked very 

 closely with us. 



What we did, Mr. Chairman, was the following when we received 

 the NASCO report: We reviewed this, and set up our own 10-year 

 program in the ICO, through the membership of the ICO. We have 

 that plan now, which was generated early in 1960. We don't feel this 

 is of sufficient depth and explains the whole program in enough detail 

 to be helpful, as helpful to the national interest, as our TENOC 

 program was in the Navy. 



As a result of this, we asked the Navy to develop the 10-year 

 ocean ographic program, developed originally for scientific work — we 

 asked the Chief of Naval Operations to include the operational aspects 

 to the program, and to integrate the whole effort, research, develop- 

 ment, and operations, into a 10-year plan for the whole Navy. 



Now we are asking the other Government agencies to do the same 

 thing from their point of view, in terms of their own roles and missions, 

 and when these are integrated, we will have truly a national plan as 

 a Government agency development. 



Mr. Dingell. That is right, and formulated reasonably, I hope, 

 by the heads of the sundry departments involved; am I correct? At 

 least after careful consideration by these? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Dingell. Now I don't want to transgress on Mr. Lennon's 

 time, but I do want to pursue this: Now, what attention have the 

 heads of the various and sundry departments given to the affairs of 

 the ICO? 



Mr. Wakelin. Direct attention? 



Mr. Dingell. Direct attention. 



Mr. Wakelin. Their direct attention through their Under Sec- 

 retaries at that level has been given to the program in the Federal 

 Council for Science and Technology when we present our total pro- 

 gram to them each year. 



Mr. Dingell. Has any of them ever attended a meeting of the 

 ICO? 



Mr. Wakelin. No, they haven't. 



