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Mr. Wakelin. In that time period, I would say it has been no longer 

 than a year. 



Mr. Dingell. No longer than a year, and you indicated you have 

 seen drafts; but have you seen anything else, further than rough 

 drafts? 



Mr. Wakelin. We have, of course, talked with each of the members. 



1 have talked with each of the members of the ICO about their prepara- 

 tion of the plan and about their ideas of the plan, and how far they are 

 along in some of the features of it, but we have not had complete re- 

 turns from each of the agencies for their 10-year program plans. 



Mr. Dingell. What agency has made any return to you? 



Mr. Wakelin. The Smithsonian has. 



Mr. Dingell. The Smithsonian. Has anyone else? 



Mr. Wakelin. And the Navy. 



Mr. Dingell. And the Navy, and, of course/you are responsible to 

 see that the Navy has, and you have done an excellent job. As I 

 have indicated, my concern is not that you are not doing an excellent 

 job. My concern is that apparently there is not enough attention by 

 others in Government to this same problem. 



Those two agencies have submitted returns to you. Is there any 

 other agency that has? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, we have a draft of the program suggested for 

 the Department of Interior. We have the approved plans of the 

 Department of Commerce. 



Mr. Dingell. All right, now, that is three departments. 



Mr. Wakelin. We are going to get shortly the Atomic Energy 

 Commission's, within the next several weeks, if it isn't in now. The 

 Atomic Energy Commission's long-range plans, and the National 

 Science Foundation's long-range plans. 



Mr. Dingell. And who else? 



Mr. Wakelin. There is Health, Education, and Welfare and the 

 Treasury Department. 



Mr. Dingell. Those are the only other agencies? 



Mr. Wakelin. That are involved in the ICO. 



Mr. Dingell. And you are expecting these momentarily? 



Mr. Wakelin. I would expect to have all of them in the next 



2 months. 



Mr. Dingell. Now let's switch over. You have in ICO what size 

 staff, sir? 



Mr. Wakelin. We have Mr. Robert Abel, who is going to talk to 

 you la tor. 



Mr. Dingell. I mean full-time personnel staff whose principal 

 responsibility is carrying out staff functions by, for, and on behalf 

 of ICO. 



Mr. Wakelin. As far as full-time staff is concerned, certainly Mr. 

 Robert Abel, in the Office of Naval Research, assisted them by two 

 other people. 



Mr. Dingell. Now Mr. Robert Abel is in the Office of Naval Re- 

 search. His principal job is somewhere else in the Office of Naval 

 Research, is it not? 



Mr. Wakelin. His principal function right now is Executive Sec- 

 retary of the ICO. 



Mr. Dingell. Does he devote full time to this? 



Mr. Wakelin. As far as I know, he does. 



