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Mr. McKernan. The reason for this is that there is an advantage 

 in having in a sense, kind of an interlocking directorate. I suppose 

 one might look at it that way, if he were in business. There is also 

 the fact that some of these people that you have met and are talking 

 to here spend a great deal of their time on ICO matters. They are 

 staff people in the various departments, and yet some of them spend 

 half, two-thirds, maybe up to three-fourths of their time on ICO 

 matters. They are well informed about the meetings of the ICO 

 itself, and the transition from ICO directives to action in these panels 

 is very easy. 



Mr. Lennon. Well, Mr. McKernan, who is the person that is 

 designated as the recording secretary of your panel? 



Mr. McKernan. Mr. Eckles, my alternate. I don't believe I 

 introduced him before, and I wish to apologize for that. 



Mr. Lennon. Well, just to identify him, he is the person who 

 keeps the notes and records, and the Alternate Chairman in your 

 absence. 



Mr. McKernan. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon. And he attends all the meetings of your panel? 



Mr. McKernan. Yes, unless he happens to be out of town, or 

 something, in which case, another staff member is asked. 



Mr. Lennon. Somebody else's secretaiy? 



Mr. McKernan. Right. 



Mr. Lennon. And that secretary has the minutes of all the pro- 

 ceedings and all of the things that take place at these panel meetings? 



Mr. McKernan. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon. Would you supply those for the record? 



Mr. McKernan. Yes. 



(The information requested follows :) 



Interagency Committee on Oceanography, 

 of the Federal Council for Science and Technology, 



Washington, D.C., April 6, 1962. 

 Hon. John D. Dingell, 



Chairman, Subcommittee on Oceanography, Merchant Marine and Fisheries Com- 

 mittee, House of Representatives, Washington, D.C. 



Dear Mr. Dingell: While testifying before your Subcommittee on Oceanog- 

 raphy on March 1, 1962, I was requested to furnish two items of information for 

 the record which were not then available. Since I was appearing in my capacity 

 as chairman of the facilities, equipment, and instrumentation panel of the inter- 

 agency committee on oceanography, it has been necessary to obtain review and 

 clearance of the material from the parent Federal Council for Science and Tech- 

 nology and from its chairman, the special assistant to the President for science 

 and technology. 



It has been determined, as a matter of policy, that both the council and its 

 constituent committees should be fully responsive to detailed and specific sub- 

 stantive questions. I should thus be pleased to extract from the minutes and 

 from other relevant ICO staff materials any particular information which your 

 committee requests. 



In reference to questions regarding membership of the ad hoc panel that re- 

 viewed the proposed 1963 oceanographic program, it should be noted that this 

 panel is one of a large number of such groups that were appointed by the Special 

 Assistant to advise him and the President on the balance, scope, and scientific 

 justification of important research programs in a wide variety of fields. Such 

 consultation must be developed on a confidential basis so as to assure a compre- 

 hensive and candid evaluation. While it has been the policy of the Office of 

 Special Assistant not to release names of panel members, I am advised that in 

 this case an exception will be made; the names of scientists on the Oceanography 

 Panel are listed as follows: 



Dr. Maurice Ewing, director, LaMont Geological Observatory, Columbia 

 University, Palisades, N.Y. 



