EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMITTEE ON OCEANOGRAPHY H9 



gram an excellent project concerning taxonomic research on marine 

 organisms. 



We are currently exploring, with representatives of the National 

 Aeronautics and Space Administration, areas of profit common to 

 research in the ocean and in space. It is too early to predict the out- 

 come of these meetings, hut the potential of communications satellites 

 with respect to monitoring remote chains of unmanned oceanographic 

 stations cannot be ignored. 



Other activities with which we are or will shortly be in communica- 

 tion for like purposes includes the National Security Industrial Asso- 

 ciation (as described by Dr. Wakelin), the Science Information Ex- 

 change Service, the National Institutes of Health, and, of course, 

 allied committees and panels of the Federal Council for Science and 

 Technology. 



That concludes my statement, Mr. Chairman. I will be happy to 

 answer any questions within my capacity. 



Mr. Dixgell. Mr. Bauer? 



Mr. Bauer. Would you give us for the record, Mr. Abel, the sta- 

 tistical picture of the various members of the various working groups, 

 and how many various committees and memberships in the ICO there 

 are, for the record? 



Mr. Abel. Yes. Will you permit me, then, to exclude the working 

 group itself, since it is an informal association of the panel chairmen, 

 and called together almost by definition? And also excluding the, I 

 should say, out-of-town representatives; that is, the representatives 

 of the National Academy of Sciences Committee on Oceanography, 

 who are affiliated with each of the ICO panels, as observers. 



There are 45 professional scientists in the Government agencies 

 holding memberships in 72 Panel positions. Of these, 30 members 

 hold 1 panel membership, 7 people hold 2 panel memberships, 6 

 people hold 3 panel memberships, and 2 people hold 5 panel member- 

 ships; including an alternate membership on the ICO itself. 



Now I should emphasize that in an agency which directs its effort 

 elsewhere, not within-house programs, such as the Office of Naval 

 Research, for instance, vou simply do not have any number of scientists 

 who can be placed on Commit tee. and panel memberships. When you 

 are limited to a staff of two or three, and that is all you have to draw 

 from, it is definitively necessary for them to accept these positions. 



What it comes out to, in brief, is that the average member of ICO 

 panel structures holds down about 1 % — if you will permit this sort of 

 statistic — -panel memberships. 



Mr. Bauer. On the other hand, is it not true, Mr. Abel, that there 

 be certain Panels that — -well, let us mention specifically the Panel of 

 Research, about which we will hear from Dr. Maxwell later— took a 

 month off and worked continuously on the problems of their panel. 

 Is that correct? 



Mr. Abel. I am afraid that Dr. Maxwell would be in a much better 

 position to answer that than myself. I do not recollect any such 

 occasion, although there was a period of 3 days, if I remember cor- 

 rectly — and I cannot state for sure — that they had occasion to visit 

 research activities out of town. 



Undoubtedly, Dr. Maxwell can expound on this. This is entirely 

 an educational maneuver that is quite profitable. 



Mr. Bauer. How about the Survey Panel? 



