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lation that I submitted to Dr. Wakelin, the objectives of ICES estab- 

 lished in 1899? 



Dr. Maxwell. Yes, sir, I have read this. 



Mr. Bauer. These are very similar to the ICES objectives, are 

 they not? 



Dr. Maxwell. Yes, these are somewhat more general, but I think 

 as objectives they are in nature very similar to the ICES. 



Mr. Bauer. And these are the first objectives that we have seen in 

 this committee, I think, Mr. Chairman, leading toward a national 

 program of oceanography. I think that Dr. Maxwell, if I may say 

 so, is to be commended for coming up with some objectives. 



Now, Dr. Maxwell, one final question, when you are Chairman of 

 your working group, Research Panel, rather, and you enter into dis- 

 cussions, do you think toward the national program, or do you think 

 as head of the Earth Sciences Division of the Office of Naval Research? 



Dr. Maxwell. Well, if I might correct your latter statement, I am 

 not head of the Earth Sciences Division, I am head of the Geophysics 

 Branch. 



Mr. Bauer. Excuse me, Geophysics Branch. 



Dr. Maxwell. As we meet as a research panel, we meet with the 

 idea of considering a national program. I think there as a person 

 concerned with how my program — and when I refer to "my program," 

 I refer to the Office of Naval Research's program in oceanography — 

 how it best fits into the national program, and how it should be modi- 

 fied to take into account other programs within the Federal agencies. 

 I feel my job both as Chairman of this Research Panel and as head of 

 the Geophysics Branch, which essentially monitors our oceanographic 

 program, is one and the same and that if there were no ICO at all, 

 I would still feel it my responsibility to know the programs of these 

 other agencies. 



Mr. Bauer. But what I was getting at, Dr. Maxwell, I think you 

 understand, and that is, here you have established very admirable 

 objectives for the establishment of a national oceanographic research 

 program. Whether or not they have been adopted, I don't know, but 

 they certainly should be. 



Now on the other hand, you have to come up with a recommended 

 national oceanographic research program, do you not, for con- 

 sideration? 



Dr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. You have to produce one? 



Dr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. And when you produce it, won't you really be wearing 

 two hats as Chairman of the Production Committee, should we say? 



Dr. Maxwell. No, sir, when we meet as a research panel, I would 

 like to think at least that I would throw away any Navy hat I might 

 have at this time, and that I would be working toward a national 

 program. Because I feel that our national program, all the way 

 through, has gone far beyond the Navy's interest in this. We have 

 taken into account the interests of all the other agencies', and what wo 

 feel are the interests of the country as a whole in this regard, and I 

 think it would be completely fair to say that I was not acting in the 

 capacity of a Navy person when putting together this report. 



Mr. Bauer. That is all I have, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Dingell. Mr. Pelly. 



