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organization to meet new situations as they come up. I think nearly 

 everybody concerned with the ICO recognizes it is not a perfect 

 organization the way it is currently set up, but I think nearly all of 

 these people also realize that they do not know exactly what the perfect 

 organization is. They prefer to let things sort of evolve into the best 

 possible way of handling things. 



Mr. Pelly. Well, you know the situation that exists as far as 

 scholarships and research projects as between the agencies. You 

 can't even find out, there are so many of them, as to how they dovetail, 

 and the Committee on Education and Labor now is setting about to 

 try to come up with some tabulation as to the total number of scholar- 

 ships and programs that we have, so that the Congress can have some 

 overall idea of what we are doing, and I think the same would be true, 

 probably, in oceanography, as between agencies. 



Dr. Maxwell. This is very possible. 



Mr. Pelly. If it hadn't been for the Navy, I would say, I don't 

 think there would have been very much of a program at all. But now 

 I think we are starting about a little bit extended program, and it is 

 well to get started in the right way. 



Dr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Dingell. Counsel? 



Dr. Maxwell, you have been a splendid witness, most frank and 

 most helpful. The committee is very much appreciative of your 

 kindness and your helpfulness today. 



May I ask you briefly one question: You have set forth in the direc- 

 tion of Secretary Wakelin to you in his letter a number of things, 

 starting with 2 at the bottom of 1, and then going (a), (6), (c), (d), (e), 

 (/), wherein the committee has achieved a direction to assume a very 

 heavy responsibility. To review individual agencies programs for 

 technical validity, for satisfying agency need, for a proper balance of 

 the overall agency program. 



To determine the soundness of continuing projects of the agency 

 with respect to agency as well as national needs. To determine how 

 critical new or augmented projects are to agency or national needs; 

 recommend needs for support in critical areas not now included in 

 agency programs. To consider adequacy of existing research facili- 

 ties, including laboratories, instrumentation, vehicles, docks and shop 

 facilities. Recommend additional facilities required to satisfy true 

 requirements for the next several years. Consider adequacy of num- 

 bers of personnel, including professional, and so on, and to compile 

 and review the national research program for adequacy from the 

 national viewpoint for desirable and/or unnecessary duplication, and 

 for adequate balance of current and projected programs, recommend 

 national programs to provide balance and subjects which should be 

 eliminated. 



Then on under (/), determine current requirements for oceano- 

 graphic research ships by institutional and geographic areas. 



Now I assume that your Panel is like all the other ICO Panels, an 

 instrument for exchange of information. Am I correct? 



Dr. Maxwell. No, it is more than that. That is certainly one of 

 the functions of our Panel, but our Panel also brings together the 

 diverse Federal agency programs at one point where they are con- 

 tinuously reviewed and monitored by this group for some of the 

 several reasons you have just indicated. 



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