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tantly, certainty that can guide all our activities in pursuit of Fed- 

 eral law. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. I thank the gentleman. I thank the witnesses. 

 Does any member of this subcommittee wish to address questions 

 to our witnesses? The gentleman, Mr. Radanovich, is recognized. 



Mr. Radanovich. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Actually, I did 

 want to direct some questions but not to my colleagues, Mr. Fazio 

 and Mr. Herger. It is unfortunate that Mr. Bradley is not in the 

 room right now but 



Mr. DoOLiTTLE. He made a signal. Maybe it wasn't clear whether 

 he intended to — he is coming back. If you want to hold or ask other 

 questions, perhaps you will have a chance to talk to him at that 

 time. 



Mr. Radanovich. I am going to hold my time then. Thank you. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. OK. Mr. Ensign. 



Mr. Ensign. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is just real brief. Both 

 of you are from California, and my question is very simple. You 

 represent the people that elected you to office. You seem to know 

 your districts well and the needs out there. How do you feel about 

 somebody from New Jersey, other places in the country basically 

 trying to come in and tell you what is best for your state? Shouldn't 

 the people that elected you, that put their faith in you to know 

 what is best for your state. 



Mr. Herger. I thank you for the question, Mr. Ensign. I suppose 

 we feel about the same way you do when a mining legislation 

 comes up as it did yesterday afternoon from, again, individuals 

 from the East. I believe this is a tragedy that we see happening 

 over and over again in this. It is not just a so-called, it is a war 

 on the West, whether it be on our water, on our grazing, on mining, 

 whatever it is. It is a tragedy that hopefully this Congress is in the 

 process of correcting, and this legislation goes toward that I be- 

 lieve. 



Mr. Ensign. And I think it gets to a deeper issue. We have a rep- 

 resentative form of government. Part of what Congress is about is 

 bringing people here that were elected by their districts. This is not 

 interstate. This is all in California, and it would seem to me that 

 the responsibility of the rest of us is to listen to the representatives 

 that represent those districts that are only being affected. And New 

 Jersey is certainly not being affected by this, and we should listen 

 to what the best recommendations are from those representatives. 

 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Chairman? 



Mr, DOOLITTLE. Yes. Mr. Miller is recognized. 



Mr. Miller. Well, the gentleman from Nevada raises an interest- 

 ing point, and I am sure that people in Arizona when Nevada and 

 Las Vegas try to explain to them how they should give up their 

 water and sell it to Nevada will be very interested in having the 

 people from Arizona only 



Mr. Ensign. Will the gentleman yield? 



Mr. Miller [continuing], making that — I will yield at the end — 

 making that decision. The people from New Jersey and every state 

 in the Union are affected by this because we put $3.5 billion of 

 their taxpayers' money into it, and at a time when we are looking 

 to reduce subsidies and to reduce the obligations of the Federal 



